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Tutorial Xenon RGH1.2 Freeboot Tutorial

Have you had success with RGH1.2 on your Xenon?

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KarimPolska

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I already got Xell to boot with the dynamic timing file. What timing file do you recommend guys. I have flashed the image and cant get it to boot to dash at all.
 

BluesMan67

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I already got Xell to boot with the dynamic timing file. What timing file do you recommend guys. I have flashed the image and cant get it to boot to dash at all.
Try them all,one by one and see which file is booting your console into dash.
I couldn't get any,not even the dynamic timing file to get the last Xenon board (with Canadian CPU) to even boot back into "Xell" let alone the dashboard after i'd created the hacked nand image with AutoGG.Tried every timing file,tried different wiring routes and different gauge wiring but nothing worked on the last Xenon board :frown: It really is hit and miss with them.
 

Demetris

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The ones that don't work is because they have a different pulse timing so you need to use various resistance on the rst line to get them to glitch , sometimes with the use of a longer wire or adding a 1k resistor to cpu_rst and keep adding bigger resistor values until you find the sweet spot.
 

BluesMan67

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The ones that don't work is because they have a different pulse timing so you need to use various resistance on the rst line to get them to glitch , sometimes with the use of a longer wire or adding a 1k resistor to cpu_rst and keep adding bigger resistor values until you find the sweet spot.
Demetris,when you say "keep adding bigger resistor values until you find the sweet spot" is that meaning to solder them,one at a time to the "CPU_RST point from starting with a 1k ohm and going up then in resistor value,one at a time or replacing the 22k ohm resistor on the Ace v3 "PLL" solder pad and starting from 1k ohm upwards. ? thanks for that good bit of info though.I will try this on my next Xenon board victim lol
 

KarimPolska

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Left it overnight with the dynamic timing files for like 10h or more but never booted to dash. I started to believe there is something wrong with the image I wrote.
 

CeratedSuperior

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The last xenon
Left it overnight with the dynamic timing files for like 10h or more but never booted to dash. I started to believe there is something wrong with the image I wrote.
It's not the image it's just how xenon's are. This tutorial isn't meant for building a reliable xenon rgh. The CPUs on xenon's are trash, often times they'll crash before getting a successful glitch which starts the process all over again, sometimes indefinitely. Even if you get it working it's going to die in a very short time because the CPU won't handle being reset glitched but for so long.
 

Demetris

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@ C CeratedSuperior Stop spreading misinformation please. I have several Xenon boards still working fine here.
So you know i have two placed at a public pool in the summer and they work from 8am to 6pm for several years now and they still perform amazing.
Both have the newer gpu heatsinks and added two fans , one over the gpu ext bracket and one behind the cpu heatsink so they work in parallel [ L shape airflow]
Also i have placed 3mm rubbers in the bottom rams so they stay in place and cutted a 3mm rubber pad to fit under both clamps removing the small plastic Microsoft put there as it melds from heat and destroys and flexes the motherboard.

@ B BluesMan67 CPU_RST point not Ace V3. Looks like some of these cpus switching frequencies and such is slower and glitch effect cant kick in so easily because they never were the target audience of glitch hack and they were left untested and un-finetuned

Edit: The only issue with the xenons is the ones with the nichicon capacitors next to the cpu, those are junk and you need to replace them asap or you will get the RROD and you will think is the gpu or cpu lol.
The ones with the rubicons are good to go but have an eye on those capacitors because before you get them they were getting a lot of stress from heat and they might fail in the future, or maybe not :biggrin:
 
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CeratedSuperior

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@ C CeratedSuperior Stop spreading misinformation please. I have several Xenon boards still working fine here.
So you know i have two placed at a public pool in the summer and they work from 8am to 6pm for several years now and they still perform amazing.
Both have the newer gpu heatsinks and added two fans , one over the gpu ext bracket and one behind the cpu heatsink so they work in parallel [ L shape airflow]
Also i have placed 3mm rubbers in the bottom rams so they stay in place and cutted a 3mm rubber pad to fit under both clamps removing the small plastic Microsoft put there as it melds from heat and destroys and flexes the motherboard.

@ B BluesMan67 CPU_RST point not Ace V3. Looks like some of these cpus switching frequencies and such is slower and glitch effect cant kick in so easily because they never were the target audience of glitch hack and they were left untested and un-finetuned

Edit: The only issue with the xenons is the ones with the nichicon capacitors next to the cpu, those are junk and you need to replace them asap or you will get the RROD and you will think is the gpu or cpu lol.
The ones with the rubicons are good to go but have an eye on those capacitors because before you get them they were getting a lot of stress from heat and they might fail in the future, or maybe not :biggrin:
Just because you have one that works doesn't mean they aren't still ****. The first rgh I built was a xenon and It still works too, still **** though. The CPUs crash under the stress from Reset Glitch Hack, unless you know more than Team Xecuter and 15432. If you've got something to say maybe you should learn some respect or stay in your lane little bruh.
 

Demetris

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I have a Jtagged falcon that would crash occasionally too, you realize that your response paints the picture of an arrogant and spoiled child right?
Asking me to show some respect to you or stay in my lane and calling me small wtf "bruh!" grow up.
 

Newsk

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yeah, coming back years latter and getting our old shittee xenons to boot was more for fun. Nobody would have ever sold a xenon as a rgh console!
 

BluesMan67

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Wow,just finished another Xenon RGH1.2 and i'm proper impressed with this one.
Went a bit to heavy handed on removing the resistor from C7R112 and nearly lifted the "CPU_RST" pad off :frown: (first time this has happened in years) so when i was trying to get "Xell" to boot,the Ace chip debug green light was not even lighting up.
I thought,here we go,headache time lol till i did a google search for an "Alt" "RST" point and soldered a wire from the chips "D" pad too "R8C2 tiny black resistor" on the top of the Xenon board (wrapping the wire through the large caps and away from the power coils as possible.
Got "Xell" to boot within 4 glitch cycles to grab the CPU Key,done everything with AutoGG as per the tuturial instructions.Console glitches to dashboard within 5-6 glitch cycles.I'm happy at that.Woooohoooooooooo lol
This Xenon board has a Canada CPU but has 4x silver A 602,820,4v resistors and not the normal 4x yellow resistors (i've only came across a few Xenon boards that have these smaller silver resistors inplace of the 4x yellow ones.
Wasn't able to get the console to boot at all ("Xell" or "Dashboard") with any timing file apart from the Xenon dynamic timing file but i'll take that as a great success :smile:
Happy days indeed :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
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One of the guides I read on it says "instead of acquiring the CPU key using Xell (which would usually cause a Xenon’s CPU to crash, which is why RGH isn’t really viable on Xenons) it can be acquired using a TTL adapter installed onto the glitch chip", so I was under the impression that it was not using Xell. On the two videos I can find showing it on YouTube the key is sent over the COM port almost instantly after powering on, which only really gives the chip one attempt at glitching, which is much quicker than any Xenon would normally boot Xell. One of the videos clearly shows the timing file used was "rgh12_xettl_02.xsvf" which I cannot find in any package of timing files I have. If you have done this before, do you still have the files for it?

UPDATE - Managed to find the files and was able to recover the CPU key from the console I was working on using a Matrix v3. I can confirm that it is a custom ECC file that needs flashing to the NAND, plus some custom timing files and the CPU key was outputted via COM port without the console having to boot into Xell. Tomorrow I'm going to go back to the other three consoles and see if the process works on them too.

would you by any chance share that special set (custom ECC and TTL timing files for Matrix)? All links are to dropbox which already expired :frown:
 

reddragon105

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would you by any chance share that special set (custom ECC and TTL timing files for Matrix)? All links are to dropbox which already expired :frown:
Of course, no problem. I've uploaded them here - [Click here to view this link]

Feel free to share/re-upload anywhere, because I had a really hard time finding them and wouldn't want anyone else to go through that!

I was meaning to make a guide showing how I did it, so I'll try to get around to that, but in the meantime if you have any questions just let me know.
 
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I could not get this to work, I shortened wires, did very good soldering, changed wire positions, changed the XSVF file. Just could not get it to work. Got more familiar with the ace v3 chip though, which was cool. Not sure if your able to change the XSVF without putting the diod back on, but I put it back each time. Overall, this is a great tutorial. But I think that some Xenons just don’t want to give.
 

Octal450

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Well I've spent the last days trying to glitch 4 Xenons with ACE V2R and ACE V3 - various timings and wire routings, wire types, wire lengths.

Not one got into XeLL. The only one I got into XeLL was a board back in December, but it RROD'd and I junked it.

Never had a problem with Zephyrs tho, can RGH2 those fine. Shame Xenon will never RGH2 to avoid the CPU crashing problem. 15432 or Tiros said something about timing the glitch perfectly that the CPU doesn't crash.

Also has anyone tried with the 1K resistors? I might grab some and try that out, or try RGH1 as the board I need DVD key recovery on is on 12xxx. If that fails I'll try the TTL method I guess.

Kind Regards,
Josh
 

castrosom

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Hello I'm Brazilian Technician and I have 2 XENON plates in good condition and perfect working, I'm trying but I can't get started XELL can someone help me with ECC file? and the chip I'm trying on a MATRIX that has crystal, I am waiting for help


Ola, eu sou técnico brasileiro e tenho 2 placas de XENON em bom estado e perfeito funcionamento, estou tentando, mas não consigo iniciar XELL, alguém pode me ajudar com o arquivo ECC? e o chip que estou experimentando em uma MATRIZ que tem cristal, estou esperando por ajuda
O que outras pessoas estão dizendo
 

Octal450

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Don't use MATRIX use X360ACE... but even success with that is weary. I only glitch 1 out of 5 systems with success. Other systems TTL only for CPUKey... NO freeboot.

Josh
 
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