Discussion Why the PS3 can't be hacked

Discussion in 'PlayStation 3' started by Carson, Jul 8, 2009 with 100 replies and 27,632 views.

  1. Spiidey

    Spiidey Enthusiast

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    *cough*

    Wrong, fella. That's a mod on a 40 gig PS3. All they've done is wire a switch to the eject button and slot sensor.

    Good try, and definitely an interesting mod. Sorry to burst your bubble (actually, I'm not sorry at all!), but when we big boys are talking about serious hacking, we mean real hacking. Breaking software. Building software to have the system do our bidding. And nobody I know in the hacking community would consider running a burned PS2 game on a PS3 a hack in the least.

    Cheers,
     
  2. gunitbomber

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    just one day a really big nerd is going to break it down by sections, and make it easy to hack. OOOOONNNNEEEE DDDAAAYYYY
    PPPPLLLLEEEAAASSSEEE Nerd out and to something lol
     
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    @gun it bomber

    please, this is a very serious thread. do not refer to hackers as "really big nerds"

    @AkilCeil

    It will have the same security if not more
     
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  5. darkdevil

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    By this i have a xbox 360
     
  6. mastervito

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    Here is your RSA it can be decrypted i know of ppl that have micro**** uses 2048 P = 61 <- first prime number (destroy this after computing E and D)
    Q = 53 <- second prime number (destroy this after computing E and D)
    PQ = 3233 <- modulus (give this to others)
    E = 17 <- public exponent (give this to others)
    D = 2753 <- private exponent (keep this secret!)

    Your public key is (E,PQ).
    Your private key is D.

    The encryption function is:

    encrypt(T) = (T^E) mod PQ
    = (T^17) mod 3233

    The decryption function is:

    decrypt(C) = (C^D) mod PQ
    = (C^2753) mod 3233

    To encrypt the plaintext value 123, do this:

    encrypt(123) = (123^17) mod 3233
    = 337587917446653715596592958817679803 mod 3233
    = 855

    To decrypt the ciphertext value 855, do this:

    decrypt(855) = (855^2753) mod 3233
    = 123

    One way to compute the value of 855^2753 mod 3233 is like this:

    2753 = 101011000001 base 2, therefore

    2753 = 1 + 2^6 + 2^7 + 2^9 + 2^11
    = 1 + 64 + 128 + 512 + 2048

    Consider this table of powers of 855:

    855^1 = 855 (mod 3233)
    855^2 = 367 (mod 3233)
    855^4 = 367^2 (mod 3233) = 2136 (mod 3233)
    855^8 = 2136^2 (mod 3233) = 733 (mod 3233)
    855^16 = 733^2 (mod 3233) = 611 (mod 3233)
    855^32 = 611^2 (mod 3233) = 1526 (mod 3233)
    855^64 = 1526^2 (mod 3233) = 916 (mod 3233)
    855^128 = 916^2 (mod 3233) = 1709 (mod 3233)
    855^256 = 1709^2 (mod 3233) = 1282 (mod 3233)
    855^512 = 1282^2 (mod 3233) = 1160 (mod 3233)
    855^1024 = 1160^2 (mod 3233) = 672 (mod 3233)
    855^2048 = 672^2 (mod 3233) = 2197 (mod 3233)

    Given the above, we know this:

    855^2753 (mod 3233)
    = 855^(1 + 64 + 128 + 512 + 2048) (mod 3233)
    = 855^1 * 855^64 * 855^128 * 855^512 * 855^2048 (mod 3233)
    = 855 * 916 * 1709 * 1160 * 2197 (mod 3233)
    = 794 * 1709 * 1160 * 2197 (mod 3233)
    = 2319 * 1160 * 2197 (mod 3233)
    = 184 * 2197 (mod 3233)
    = 123 (mod 3233)
    = 123

    If you have a computer program (such as the "bc" utility that comes with Linux),
    you can compute 855^2753 mod 3233 directly, like this:

    855^2753 mod 3233
    = 50432888958416068734422899127394466631453878360035509315554967564501
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    = 123
     
  7. Haxalot88

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    What a lovely copy+paste, An Example of RSA Encryption

    Now you are wrong, it cannot just be decrypted. That example you showed was just an example of how the algorithm works, anyone can create a keypair and use it. However you sir, are a complete idiot.
     
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  8. mastervito

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    nice so you know how to use google gratz i do not claim to know how to do it and i dont i used to **** with **** like this but im way outta the loop and i dont intend to get back in anyway the reason i posted that was i was talking it over with a friend whom is working on finding a big enough hole and told me to post that
    actually here
    Let me google that for you For you Haxalot and your supreme google skills
     
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    Carson

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    Haxalot actually knows what he is talking about. Infraction given, quit flaming. You're the one who copied and pasted from Googling, not him.
     
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  10. Spiidey

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    @ mastervito - Unbelievable. Absolute insanity, coming in here like that. You didn't actually think you'd impress us with a little googling, and then spreading the B.S. like nutella when you said that you used to do that stuff, did you? Don't try to snow the snowman.

    @ Haxalot - impressive display of patience and zen-like calmness.

    @ Carson - Appreciate you stickin' up for him... and gratz on the promo :smile:

    @ Y'all - My girlfriend was feeling pretty baller yesterday, and bought me a new Wii. Guess what I've been working at allllll night? Heh, yeah. You got 'er.
     
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  11. Haxalot88

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    SPIIDEY, you're totally back, yo. So not to derail this thread, but what did you totally work on all night :smile:?
     
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    Carson

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    I bet he either:

    A) Installed a Modchip
    B) Used an exploit to install Homebrew Channel
    or C) Knowing Spiidey, probably found a hole himself and wrote an exploit
     
  13. Spiidey

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    Aye, I am indeed back :smile:

    Not that I was ever *really* gone... I just don't hang around Xbox forums so much these days - next system on the list to re-purchase: Xbox 360 Elite.

    My next project is softmodding my brand new LU39 Wii my baller girlfriend bought me yesterday. So far, it's been a bit of a struggle; the Hackmii installer works, but can't get at boot2 because Nintendo blocked boot1... no problem, I just load my bootmii and homebrew channel from the SD card. The issue now is my 4.2U firmware that is being an utter b!atch to work with. Yay, I can load homebrew, but booerns, I can't use USB yet... for which I have a 320GB Seagate FreeAgent GO ready.

    (FreeAgent GO ftw, by the way. That thing rocks! I use it as my 'away from home' time capsule with my MB Pro, which coincidentally pwnz as well.)

    Thus far, the PS3 is still kickin' around. Playing lots of COD World at War... itching for my Modern Warfare II (with night vision goggles!). November 10th! I even bought a new 40" LCDTV because my 32" Bravia is too small. Oh, and to top it all off, I just moved into my new apartment with the gf... 2 bedroom, and we only use one to sleep in... And she already took the Kitchen, so that spare room is mine... ALL MINE!!!

    Game Room? Mwahahahaha. I like to call it "the Hacker's Den".

    Gosh, I write such long posts
     
  14. laharl83

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    *throws 2 cents in* Thank you for this article. It was very inciteful. I just started modding and hacking 2 months ago(i got laid off at work and i am a huge gamer lol), but up until that point i purchased every single game i have ever played in my life. If i had only known then what i know now. I would have had enough money to pay for a year in college instead of dam student loans. I sincerely appreciate everyone's input(mostly lol) on se7ensins. Without you guys i would be bored out of my mind. Anyway, i used to own a PS3....I sold it for $100. I was very disappointed with the system. That being said. It may take some time, but eventually everything gets hacked. I mean their(M$ and Sony) security gets better b/c of what we do to their hardware and software. It is just time to rise to the occasion. If it wasn't for us they couldn't advance technology...they would have no need to. But you guys can flame me or whatever...i know i know i am just a noob to all of this...but i do believe you should always finish what you start. I recently bought another ps3 and somehow...someday...someway...it is gonna be hacked...and it is not b/c i want to play free games...it is b/c of the challenge.
     
  15. dignor

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    Can you speak in english, please??? xD

    I think that all of you need a holydays...
     
  16. HellDefender

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    Just to point one thing out about New Xbox's having better security, since they have said it will be over a decade don't you think the hacking community will have advanced to in over 10 years? I'd imagine so.
     
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    Wow thats crazy:cool: But I see where you are going with it killing the PS3 market. With free games just coming out of no where, no one would be making money.
     
  19. biggp

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    Troll, or just plain BS?
     
  20. pochi10

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    this is the reason why 360 sells more than ps3. if hackers find a way to crack the ps3. that will boost the sales of ps3. i think. :biggrin:
     

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