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You Know, Im the type of person that believe that anything is Possible. People say that the wft file cannot be converted to xft. If this is true then how did rockstar get the cars they have not on too the xbox game. They had to use some sort of program to do this, And if you think further I know they did not model the car all over again for PC users. Its common sense that they converted from xft to wft.
So why cant people find a way to convert it back to xft once converted to wft. The only problem is that we cant find the tools to do this. The resources are out there. We just cant find the tools. Believe it or not. Or Closest tool is Notepad++. All we would have to do is keep the Car file size the same.

I will keep updating this Post with gathered information.

UPDATE 6/2/13
An User of se7ensins has PM me the following contents:
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i know u think im a random but read my post i told u how the three of us figured it out. just make sure u make room and add handling and all the other **** to make a car work and what not. find the pc real car added thing and learn how it was made and make one to work off of xboxstandards.

thats what we did we wearnt gonna release cause scripts went oo far so we pushed it to gta v release just to prove it can be done and has been done. if u can figure it out ill send the files and ur program so u can add my cars i finished and what not hopefully yet again yall crack this challenging task/ ps ur gonna need to ask program devs.ASK SOME PC MOODDRS THAT PC REAL CARS they will help just be nice.
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UPDATE 6/3/13

A WHILE ago ROBATORE Had gotten the file of a real car that he downloaded for PC mods to Spawn into the game. But when He got close to it he would Freeze. The point that people ignored in when this happened is that HE GOT THE CAR TO LOAD. What he had done is simply rename the file to "coment.xft".

Heres the video. He Never really gets close enough before he freezes. But this is just an example on haw it would happen if you would do this.


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Conclusions
Now what the main reasons why Files cause the game to freeze.
Usually when games freeze it comes from File coding and file types.
I think that in the video the file 'comet.xft' was able to identifiy as a xft file, But when trying to read and parse the coding, Thats when it freeze up. You see every car in the game coding lines are in constant use. Even when you are not in the car the xbox has to read lines for the Polygon Count, suspension, How big the car looks, Textures , Are all functions within the model that is used when you are even in range to SEE the car.


Now I have got A hold of the Xbox and PC coding Lines for the car. NOTE this is a computer language.s

Im using the turismo.
Just first coding lines.



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If we can find out what coding each are Im pretty sure notepad++ can convert the languages.

Then try ROBATORE's way And see what we get. Now that the coding is Xbox standards.
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Update 6/5/13
One of the open Iv creators stated this
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First of all, Rockstar DO NOT convert resource files (xft <> wft). They use text-based intermediate format (just like openFormats inOpenIV). So you can't convert resource from PC (wft) to Xbox (xft) easily. You need to create xft resource from scratch, like we create resources from openFormats for PC version of games.
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R* managed to do it as it's their game :biggrin:
 
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..heheh some body about to figure it out. theres a prgoram that was made to do this. and thats all ill say.
 
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i dont think it will ever be public or even released. but these original modders of 2008 have been hiding more than scripts from yall...
 
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Rockstar made the game engine, then as they knew it inside out they knew exactly how to make the tools to make the files. No one outside rockstar in the modding community has nearly the same amount of experience to make those tools to the high level R* have, and anyone who has a enough understanding will only do it for pc.
Secondly drop the idea that rockstar converted xft to wft. They wouldn't have done that. They will have tools that replicate the same given model in whatever standard format to make them into recognisable wft, xft and cft files
 
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am I? You asked i answered. believe me or dont it doesnt matter to me. I'm sure you guys will figure it out. too
 
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i dont need props no offense, i cant give u the answers at this time. a made a deal that i wouldnt release without credit and until the desired time. also some bugs still exsists its a bit laggy at times. Hopefully yall figure it out then i can provide some inside help and then maybe this can go public, but for now this stays hidden and unsolved sorry.. "( 
Make a program that does the same thing it does for pc and ull find ur answer. find someone who can literally create this program or ur gonna have to wait. by the way nice icenhancers releases where eflc lol.
 
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Lol we need one of rockstars programmers to tell us what program they used so we can get real cars in the game and i guarantee once we know how to do that we could move on to do cooler and greater mods.. :eek:
 
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Lol we need one of rockstars programmers to tell us what program they used so we can get real cars in the game and i guarantee once we know how to do that we could move on to do cooler and greater mods.. :eek:

haha yeah that be cool but there's always a positive and a negative effect sure we will be able bring in cool looking cars stuff like that problem is that with more and more stuff we learn the more and more people make stuff for bad stuff for example another freezing technique
and personally I got a lot on my plate right now trying not to get frozen...
 
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Im going to Email them LOL f-u-c-k It
 
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i dont think it will ever be public or even released. but these original modders of 2008 have been hiding more than scripts from yall...
Does anyone agree that this guy is just staright lying.
 
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Does anyone agree that this guy is just staright lying.

heheh..... i sure am :wink: oh yeah nice menu and fun cars. no reason to hate on what u dont understand. i really do hope you guys really do figure this out, so i can prove you wrong.
 
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I Know right.. I dont play in random Free Modes anymore cause there is always some nooby *** modder with a boat car or some mad pack that he downloaded abusing his mods thinking he is hot shiz. Honestly Cathering should've NEVER released the scripts cause he was afraid somebody was gonna take credit for them. It wouldve made this game a whole lot better in my opinion and i think some of these scripts are dumb people just release the same stuff over and over again :frown:
 
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I Know right.. I dont play in random Free Modes anymore cause there is always some nooby *** modder with a boat car or some mad pack that he downloaded abusing his mods thinking he is hot shiz. Honestly Cathering should've NEVER released the scripts cause he was afraid somebody was gonna take credit for them. It wouldve made this game a whole lot better in my opinion and i think some of these scripts are dumb people just release the same stuff over and over again :frown:

I know what u mean sadly u can't patten your mods haha you get arrested lmfao so yeah but anyone would do something to make there mods stand out even if its stealing stuff from another menu example take freezes cars people try find the best freeze car and if someone has a car that they don't have they want protection over it so yep EVERY MAN FOR HIM SELF !!!! lol :biggrin:
 
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heheh..... i sure am :wink: oh yeah nice menu and fun cars. no reason to hate on what u dont understand. i really do hope you guys really do figure this out, so i can prove you wrong.
Ha your just out of the no where but ok .and thanks iM done with my menu.:wink:
 
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