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Am sure r* also know that if I can't make money duping and glitching then I wont buy money in-game with shark cards.
So no they dont lose sales atall
I dont agree with that, coz someone would buy sharkcard if ingame money wasnt available free...
 

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I dont agree with that, coz someone would buy sharkcard if ingame money wasnt available free...
If your joe blogs gamers and wernt aware of glitching then yes they would pay.
But everyone doing the glitch isn't in that category so would not pay. So they arnt losing out on money we would never spend.
We all would of stopped playing this game along time ago instead
 

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That will make false positives and it'll punishing legit players, I've made more than enough money in crates to buy a bunch of deluxos just because I want (I can spend my money the way I want, If I want I can buy 45 deluxos, and paint them all different colors, none of your businesses nor Rockstar what I buy with my in game money), and then if I want to sell them I'd be punished?? add that punishment to a full lawsuit to Rockstar. Besides, with the prices of nowadays, 10 million is nothing.
You keep talking without real proof, you said there are already changes in the code, well, show them like it was done in the past.
No, there will be no false positives. As for lawsuits are you 12? If you buy 120 deluxos with actual in game money then for some reason you sell then all off then you hit the 10 million dollar cap your sales will be placed in one a day. The scenario you are giving is just not going to happen. You and I both know someone with a garage full of one specific car did not actually purchase it. Either frozen money for the deluxos would have been used and that is a violation of tos. Or they were duplicates.
Do not act like anyone on earth would ever purchase enough deluxos to ever hit that cap.
It will never happen unless someone needs to hide money they obtained by cheating to avoid money wipe.
Nobody will buy that many of one car to lose half its value. This is so far fetched and to top it off you think there will be lawsuits. Let me tell you a story about a user that threatend this when their money was reset. They made all these claims about being a legit player that purchased shark carda and was wiped because of it. Rockstar took that players account and did an extensive look into it. Checked all cars sales and found the user owned 80 deluxos. They also found the user had sold 250 retro elegys. So instead of crediting that user they reset the account and handed out a 30 day suspension.
Good luck with your lawsuit sir.


Claiming that they track car sales for 10 million of the same is ridiculous. As someone said, that will punish a lot of legit players
I agree with funmw2 Put up proof that you have inside info.
There will be zero legit players punished as no legit player has bought 10 million worth of the same car to only sell it for half its value. You have to remember that by being a legit player means you earned the money to buy that vehicle. Which means you will debate whether or not you will even be willing to part with it at half its value.
Many players have nowhere near enough vehicles to even fill their ceo garage let alone multiples of the same high end car.
Providing proof? I really do not care what you choose to believe or not believe. I felt that what is coming warranted sharing. That is all. I would be in violation of my nda to post actual coding.
So dont expect that ever. Also, I really do not care if anyone believes I work for rockstar. Why would I? You choose whatever you want to believe but when you are no longer able to make any money selling even actual purchased cars just remember that I posted that was coming.
When you sell 10 issi dupes and this system is actually finished and you daily sell limit is thrown straight to one a day remember I said that was happening.
Wheb account resets start happening to those in the one a day club remember I said that was coming.
 

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No, there will be no false positives. As for lawsuits are you 12? If you buy 120 deluxos with actual in game money then for some reason you sell then all off then you hit the 10 million dollar cap your sales will be placed in one a day. The scenario you are giving is just not going to happen. You and I both know someone with a garage full of one specific car did not actually purchase it. Either frozen money for the deluxos would have been used and that is a violation of tos. Or they were duplicates.
Do not act like anyone on earth would ever purchase enough deluxos to ever hit that cap.
It will never happen unless someone needs to hide money they obtained by cheating to avoid money wipe.
Nobody will buy that many of one car to lose half its value. This is so far fetched and to top it off you think there will be lawsuits. Let me tell you a story about a user that threatend this when their money was reset. They made all these claims about being a legit player that purchased shark carda and was wiped because of it. Rockstar took that players account and did an extensive look into it. Checked all cars sales and found the user owned 80 deluxos. They also found the user had sold 250 retro elegys. So instead of crediting that user they reset the account and handed out a 30 day suspension.
Good luck with your lawsuit sir.



There will be zero legit players punished as no legit player has bought 10 million worth of the same car to only sell it for half its value. You have to remember that by being a legit player means you earned the money to buy that vehicle. Which means you will debate whether or not you will even be willing to part with it at half its value.
Many players have nowhere near enough vehicles to even fill their ceo garage let alone multiples of the same high end car.
Providing proof? I really do not care what you choose to believe or not believe. I felt that what is coming warranted sharing. That is all. I would be in violation of my nda to post actual coding.
So dont expect that ever. Also, I really do not care if anyone believes I work for rockstar. Why would I? You choose whatever you want to believe but when you are no longer able to make any money selling even actual purchased cars just remember that I posted that was coming.
When you sell 10 issi dupes and this system is actually finished and you daily sell limit is thrown straight to one a day remember I said that was happening.
Wheb account resets start happening to those in the one a day club remember I said that was coming.
When did account resets occur for thise in 1 car club? Im in 1 car club and have many friends in the club with me. None of us have been reset.
If they got reset, it was for something else.
 

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When did account resets occur for thise in 1 car club? Im in 1 car club and have many friends in the club with me. None of us have been reset.
If they got reset, it was for something else.
He said when they do start happening. They have not yet
 

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Wheb account resets start happening to those in the one a day club remember I said that was coming.
And we'll also remember that you said the system is foolproof . . . like all the other in-game systems.

Anywho, if I was laying money, I'd wager there is at least some level of BS at play . . . you've been vague, nonspecific, and nontechnical . . . not to mention a bit condescending. It's not the case that you would have to post code to sound like you know what you're talking about. Sure, maybe you work there and maybe you have heard things, but you have in no way demonstrated that you could play a technical part in implementing those things . . . Now that I think I about, if you're for real, I'd put my money on tech support. That's who has stories about people calling up, threatening lawsuits, and winning a full body cavity search of their account as a prize. That just ain't a software engineer's story, I'm afraid.

But like you said, who cares? If and when RStar succeeds in making me no longer want to play, it's not like my feelings will be hurt. I'll walk away with fond memories and will look forward to the next GTA release.
 

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If what schitzotm is saying.. is true or not.
Then all of us with frozen money glitch (long ago in 2018 (Jan 2018, July 2018) is in trouble..... (Cant remember the date that i've done the glitch) I've stopped glitching in December 2018 and need to sell all of my deluxo sadly i have to sell one vehicle every 60 hours real time. 30 hours is too risky..
 

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And we'll also remember that you said the system is foolproof . . . like all the other in-game systems.

Anywho, if I was laying money, I'd wager there is at least some level of BS at play . . . you've been vague, nonspecific, and nontechnical . . . not to mention a bit condescending. It's not the case that you would have to post code to sound like you know what you're talking about. Sure, maybe you work there and maybe you have heard things, but you have in no way demonstrated that you could play a technical part in implementing those things . . . Now that I think I about, if you're for real, I'd put my money on tech support. That's who has stories about people calling up, threatening lawsuits, and winning a full body cavity search of their account as a prize. That just ain't a software engineer's story, I'm afraid.

But like you said, who cares? If and when RStar succeeds in making me no longer want to play, it's not like my feelings will be hurt. I'll walk away with fond memories and will look forward to the next GTA release.
Man I wish I was tech support. Then I could move my account back to badsport.
Sadly Im just in the programming side. And apparently according to you not a very good one. You must have mad programming skills.
So tell me again which AAA title you had a hand in developing?

If what schitzotm is saying.. is true or not.
Then all of us with frozen money glitch (long ago in 2018 (Jan 2018, July 2018) is in trouble..... (Cant remember the date that i've done the glitch) I've stopped glitching in December 2018 and need to sell all of my deluxo sadly i have to sell one vehicle every 60 hours real time. 30 hours is too risky..
If you read up you will see the max sales cap isnt functional. It rolls up and does everything it is supposed to but there is nothing to trigger at its end destination.
Everyone would be wise beyond their years to sell now before more is implemented. But do not exceed the limits in the op. None of that has changed at all. I am personally selling one away from my limit myself to dump all of my stock of frozen money cars.
Now is the time to sell.
There are many changes being made to the detect system but very little is functional.
 

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Man I wish I was tech support. Then I could move my account back to badsport.
Sadly Im just in the programming side. And apparently according to you not a very good one. You must have mad programming skills.
So tell me again which AAA title you had a hand in developing?


If you read up you will see the max sales cap isnt functional. It rolls up and does everything it is supposed to but there is nothing to trigger at its end destination.
Everyone would be wise beyond their years to sell now before more is implemented. But do not exceed the limits in the op. None of that has changed at all. I am personally selling one away from my limit myself to dump all of my stock of frozen money cars.
Now is the time to sell.
There are many changes being made to the detect system but very little is functional.

So max sales cap is active or not?
If the update came out, Does that mean it's active and don't sell any vehicles with frozen money
 

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Man I wish I was tech support. Then I could move my account back to badsport. Sadly Im just in the programming side. And apparently according to you not a very good one. You must have mad programming skills.
So tell me again which AAA title you had a hand in developing?
So now you wrote GTA V? . . . online alter egos are a wonderful thing. But since you asked, I unknowingly helped with with the development of The Sims. My good friend was working on "Project X" for Maxxis back in the late 90's (The Sims was Will Wright's idea and he asked my buddy to develop it in secret). We would take mushrooms in the mountains and while we were vibing on the scenery he would ask me things like: How do we a know a tree is a tree? How do we tell the difference between the branches and the leaves and the whole tree? Between the tree and the forest? . . . turns out he was trying to figure out how to get a game to simulate human behavior. And the whole time I thought we were just tripping balls.

By the by, can't you just take an Oppressor MKII and get yourself back into badsport in short order?
 

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Man I wish I was tech support. Then I could move my account back to badsport.
Sadly Im just in the programming side. And apparently according to you not a very good one. You must have mad programming skills.
So tell me again which AAA title you had a hand in developing?


If you read up you will see the max sales cap isnt functional. It rolls up and does everything it is supposed to but there is nothing to trigger at its end destination.
Everyone would be wise beyond their years to sell now before more is implemented. But do not exceed the limits in the op. None of that has changed at all. I am personally selling one away from my limit myself to dump all of my stock of frozen money cars.
Now is the time to sell.
There are many changes being made to the detect system but very little is functional.
If u wanted to get put in bad sport, there is a very easy way to do that.
 

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If u wanted to get put in bad sport, there is a very easy way to do that.
I'm sure he said before he suffered some glitch where he can't get back in bad sport after he got out previously. I don't know what to make of this thread now to be honest. All this talk of changes seems to have started after broontango made a video saying he hit daily sell doing his normal routine.

BUT. According to fun2 from codewalking and schitzotm by his own admission nothing has actually changed yet. The code isn't functional. So how did broontango hit a sell limit doing normal sales?

I see only 2 explanations. Either broontango messed up sales suddenly which would seem unlikely as he's very experienced. Or r* manually did something to his account after learning his gamertag from his videos. Seen as he's now stated he got copyright strikes suddenly as well it looks more like the latter to me. Hates can report his channel but only r* could report channel AND mess with his sell limit. Thoughts?
 

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I have a quick question, cause the OP just doesnt seem to have an answer for my problem. I havent duped in more then 2 years, but a bit more then 2 years ago, maybe 25-26 months ago I was clearly dupe detected, as all my hundreds of Retros have been worth only 20k or 60k, dont remember perfectly. Anyway, shortly after that came a frozen money glitch and I overwrote every Retro with a Deluxo, waiting to get out of the 1 car club. Turns out, I just dont get out. Still I am limited to 1 car. Any idea why?
The only thing I can think of is that maybe I have duped one of my shotaros (also like 2 years ago), just to have 2 or 3 in different color schemes, cause back then, I just loved it. I wouldnt know why that would be detected, cause I never sold any of them, but lets say it was, would that be a clear explanation why I stay in the 1car club? If yes, how to solve it? Just overwrite it with another vehicle? If I did so, would the disappearing of the last dupe lead to getting out of that club or would a nice new timeframe of another 15 months start?
 

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I'm sure he said before he suffered some glitch where he can't get back in bad sport after he got out previously. I don't know what to make of this thread now to be honest. All this talk of changes seems to have started after broontango made a video saying he hit daily sell doing his normal routine.

BUT. According to fun2 from codewalking and schitzotm by his own admission nothing has actually changed yet. The code isn't functional. So how did broontango hit a sell limit doing normal sales?

I see only 2 explanations. Either broontango messed up sales suddenly which would seem unlikely as he's very experienced. Or r* manually did something to his account after learning his gamertag from his videos. Seen as he's now stated he got copyright strikes suddenly as well it looks more like the latter to me. Hates can report his channel but only r* could report channel AND mess with his sell limit. Thoughts?
It started a day or 2 before the broon video you mention. There was a few mentions of people hitting their limit after one car without any explanation. Atleast one of them also experienced. More often than not, hitting a sell limit after 1 car have to do with dirty dupes. In these cases and broons, I cant be sure that happened...
 
I have a quick question, cause the OP just doesnt seem to have an answer for my problem. I havent duped in more then 2 years, but a bit more then 2 years ago, maybe 25-26 months ago I was clearly dupe detected, as all my hundreds of Retros have been worth only 20k or 60k, dont remember perfectly. Anyway, shortly after that came a frozen money glitch and I overwrote every Retro with a Deluxo, waiting to get out of the 1 car club. Turns out, I just dont get out. Still I am limited to 1 car. Any idea why?
The only thing I can think of is that maybe I have duped one of my shotaros (also like 2 years ago), just to have 2 or 3 in different color schemes, cause back then, I just loved it. I wouldnt know why that would be detected, cause I never sold any of them, but lets say it was, would that be a clear explanation why I stay in the 1car club? If yes, how to solve it? Just overwrite it with another vehicle? If I did so, would the disappearing of the last dupe lead to getting out of that club or would a nice new timeframe of another 15 months start?
Nobody have gotten out yet. So far it seems noone ever will :frown: 1 car a day is for life, thats how it seems now...
 

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I have a quick question, cause the OP just doesnt seem to have an answer for my problem. I havent duped in more then 2 years, but a bit more then 2 years ago, maybe 25-26 months ago I was clearly dupe detected, as all my hundreds of Retros have been worth only 20k or 60k, dont remember perfectly. Anyway, shortly after that came a frozen money glitch and I overwrote every Retro with a Deluxo, waiting to get out of the 1 car club. Turns out, I just dont get out. Still I am limited to 1 car. Any idea why?
The only thing I can think of is that maybe I have duped one of my shotaros (also like 2 years ago), just to have 2 or 3 in different color schemes, cause back then, I just loved it. I wouldnt know why that would be detected, cause I never sold any of them, but lets say it was, would that be a clear explanation why I stay in the 1car club? If yes, how to solve it? Just overwrite it with another vehicle? If I did so, would the disappearing of the last dupe lead to getting out of that club or would a nice new timeframe of another 15 months start?
It depends. Having a dirty dupe stored could lead to problems but if you genuinely went in 1 car club there is no getting out. I keep saying 9 months went to 15 then 15 went to 30. So after 30 months you find out. You get out or they make 30 months to 45/60 or something.

I also believe dirty dupes are detected when you enter modshop with them you don't have to sell. So if you painted them different colours but they all have same plate then sure they are detected.
 
It started a day or 2 before the broon video you mention. There was a few mentions of people hitting their limit after one car without any explanation. Atleast one of them also experienced. More often than not, hitting a sell limit after 1 car have to do with dirty dupes. In these cases and broons, I cant be sure that happened...
 

Nobody have gotten out yet. So far it seems noone ever will :frown: 1 car a day is for life, thats how it seems now...
I see. Maybe people that have helped him make videos? Been seen in his videos? All I can say is I've stuck to my sales and had a friend who's just started a new account doing the same. Zero changes we can see. And there doesn't seem to be widespread reports of limits hit. He even started overselling first couple of days to bulk up his balance a little.
 

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It depends. Having a dirty dupe stored could lead to problems but if you genuinely went in 1 car club there is no getting out. I keep saying 9 months went to 15 then 15 went to 30. So after 30 months you find out. You get out or they make 30 months to 45/60 or something.

I also believe dirty dupes are detected when you enter modshop with them you don't have to sell. So if you painted them different colours but they all have same plate then sure they are detected.
 


I see. Maybe people that have helped him make videos? Been seen in his videos? All I can say is I've stuck to my sales and had a friend who's just started a new account doing the same. Zero changes we can see. And there doesn't seem to be widespread reports of limits hit. He even started overselling first couple of days to bulk up his balance a little.
One of those who hit the limit at that time was GlitchSquad I remember. He seems to have control on this stuff aswell.
I also have a new account and have been overselling a bit at times (deluxos mainly, not many dupes) but nothing have happened... Yet...
 

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So now you wrote GTA V? . . . online alter egos are a wonderful thing. But since you asked, I unknowingly helped with with the development of The Sims. My good friend was working on "Project X" for Maxxis back in the late 90's (The Sims was Will Wright's idea and he asked my buddy to develop it in secret). We would take mushrooms in the mountains and while we were vibing on the scenery he would ask me things like: How do we a know a tree is a tree? How do we tell the difference between the branches and the leaves and the whole tree? Between the tree and the forest? . . . turns out he was trying to figure out how to get a game to simulate human behavior. And the whole time I thought we were just tripping balls.

By the by, can't you just take an Oppressor MKII and get yourself back into badsport in short order?
I wasnt working with rockstar until next gen. So I guess I didnt have a hand in the beginning but am here now.
Many great artists and many great games have come from shrooms.
Anyway my part with rockstar has for the most part been in the online side of things and not the dlc portion. I mainly work on the headend. (Server side) I am often farmed out to bug fix team. So do I know what coming months before it arrives? Yes, but I would be fired if I let anything slip. Throughout time here I have given out way too much info as to my position at rockstar. It wouldnt take a genius to figure out which person I am. So hiding behind a forum name is useless I might as well just use my real name at this point.

I can destroy hundreds of cars and still cant get back. Had an entire lobby report me and cote kick me all while destroying their stuff and still nothing.

If u wanted to get put in bad sport, there is a very easy way to do that.
Easy way? Please share. Im all out of options even tech support wont respond to my emails anymore. I have a new account that I have to use to get to badsport currently.

I'm sure he said before he suffered some glitch where he can't get back in bad sport after he got out previously. I don't know what to make of this thread now to be honest. All this talk of changes seems to have started after broontango made a video saying he hit daily sell doing his normal routine.

BUT. According to fun2 from codewalking and schitzotm by his own admission nothing has actually changed yet. The code isn't functional. So how did broontango hit a sell limit doing normal sales?

I see only 2 explanations. Either broontango messed up sales suddenly which would seem unlikely as he's very experienced. Or r* manually did something to his account after learning his gamertag from his videos. Seen as he's now stated he got copyright strikes suddenly as well it looks more like the latter to me. Hates can report his channel but only r* could report channel AND mess with his sell limit. Thoughts?
My thoughts are likely accurate.
People screw up. Server timers screw up. When you push your limits its possible to miscount and its also possible to lag a server and the time seen vs actual time does not match.
Dirty dupes also exist. And sometimes people forget they did another glitch before and assume they all have clean plates. Even these guys can mess up. Think about it. Attempt a new glitch, produce a car, not pay attention to that plate as it didnt take the retro but instead took and rh8 plate. Continue duping and notice the plates change to the rh8 plate and not give it a second look. Start selling and never notice the same plate. Sell just one of the two and get a front row seat to 1 a day car club.
Rockstar would have banned him during a live stream. Or money wiped him. Pushing to the cap often times we maximize our sales so we always are on the edge. Many dont even realize they are at the trap stage of sales limits. Then 1 single dirty dupe throws them over the edge.
This is very likely what happened.
Back when freighttrain was banned I warned him that rockstar was watching his live stream. He didnt listen.
I usually hear about single outs. I heard nothing about broontango. And as to the copyright stuff thats just an automated system. Someone can report for copyright once and then YouTube will do the rest. Dont be so paranoid. End of the day its a game and even glitch advertisement is advertisement for gta.
This is why that max sales cap will likely be raised to a much larger number and will likely just trigger the beginning of dupe detect. Its the same reason that vehicle tracking has been able to be done since day one but is not active. I said there are some changes coming. There are and that is why you should be selling and duping right now.
 

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I wasnt working with rockstar until next gen. So I guess I didnt have a hand in the beginning but am here now.
Many great artists and many great games have come from shrooms.
Anyway my part with rockstar has for the most part been in the online side of things and not the dlc portion. I mainly work on the headend. (Server side) I am often farmed out to bug fix team. So do I know what coming months before it arrives? Yes, but I would be fired if I let anything slip. Throughout time here I have given out way too much info as to my position at rockstar. It wouldnt take a genius to figure out which person I am. So hiding behind a forum name is useless I might as well just use my real name at this point.

I can destroy hundreds of cars and still cant get back. Had an entire lobby report me and cote kick me all while destroying their stuff and still nothing.

Easy way? Please share. Im all out of options even tech support wont respond to my emails anymore. I have a new account that I have to use to get to badsport currently.


My thoughts are likely accurate.
People screw up. Server timers screw up. When you push your limits its possible to miscount and its also possible to lag a server and the time seen vs actual time does not match.
Dirty dupes also exist. And sometimes people forget they did another glitch before and assume they all have clean plates. Even these guys can mess up. Think about it. Attempt a new glitch, produce a car, not pay attention to that plate as it didnt take the retro but instead took and rh8 plate. Continue duping and notice the plates change to the rh8 plate and not give it a second look. Start selling and never notice the same plate. Sell just one of the two and get a front row seat to 1 a day car club.
Rockstar would have banned him during a live stream. Or money wiped him. Pushing to the cap often times we maximize our sales so we always are on the edge. Many dont even realize they are at the trap stage of sales limits. Then 1 single dirty dupe throws them over the edge.
This is very likely what happened.
Back when freighttrain was banned I warned him that rockstar was watching his live stream. He didnt listen.
I usually hear about single outs. I heard nothing about broontango. And as to the copyright stuff thats just an automated system. Someone can report for copyright once and then YouTube will do the rest. Dont be so paranoid. End of the day its a game and even glitch advertisement is advertisement for gta.
This is why that max sales cap will likely be raised to a much larger number and will likely just trigger the beginning of dupe detect. Its the same reason that vehicle tracking has been able to be done since day one but is not active. I said there are some changes coming. There are and that is why you should be selling and duping right now.
Oh I'm selling that's for sure. I take all advice on board that seems reasonable. I believe you know something but being less cryptic (nda understood) would be more helpful. Nobody is asking for code, timescales, exact specifics. I guess what most of us are interested in is that by selling now and building bank we aren't digging something to fall into later.

Example DLC comes out and money wipe because we've sold so much upto that point. Aside from that I guess we can expect it out before long. Qabeta is running 2 builds still but hasn't been updated for nearly 6 days. I expect they are in the late stages of testing now or maybe even completed and ready to pick the better build to make public. Lets hope its a goodun
 

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Just sold 9 Issis before hitting my limit as usual, and I throw caution into the wind as sell them back 2 back. Broon's issue was a one off. If your dupes sell for chump change, take the vehicle to a gang attack.... Complete or fail.... Then drive to LSC and it'll sell for full price.
 
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