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• EyeDuDab
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#### EyeDuDab

##### Banned
i want to grind races for best time/profit of both rp and money.

i have made races to accomodate my needs. and was curious if anyone has done this math yet?

i have 6 races setup for different durations, with max checkpoints allowed for each.

can someone help me do the math plus loading times between jobs ect.... im really curious to see which time is best for repeated grinding

playlist:
should i mix n match?
which job is overall the best to make a playlist.

[TIME]: [CHECKPOINTS] = [CASH] / [RP]
• 8.4s: (3: 84 Laps) = \$1260/180Rp
• 9.8s: (3: 99 Laps) = \$1260/180
• 2m30s: (100) = \$2940/895
• 4m: (100) = \$5048/1790
• 6m: (100) = \$6728/1790
• 8m: (100) = \$8408/1790
::CONCLUSION::
6min Races pay the BEST for Winners!
I can only assume the same for losers as i have not done that math yet if ratios are similar, than the above statement can be assumed correct.

including menu times AND AFK, i have concluded:

2 Racers, Straight Track. Gas Tied durring entire playlist. time starts when invite lobby counts from 60s. ADD 70s if you Restart the Playlist​

• 2.5min - \$43,120/1h3m30s
• 4min - \$60,570/1hr4m30s
• 6min - \$62,790/1hr4m15s
• 8min - \$46,680/1hr6m
i did not run a test on the shorter ones yet, i dont know the second player pay bonus yet.

please check my math

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#### CBD420

##### Experienced Member
i want to grind races for best time/profit of both rp and money.

i have made races to accomodate my needs. and was curious if anyone has done this math yet?

i have 6 races setup for different durations, with max checkpoints allowed for each.

can somwone help me do the math plus loading times between jobs ect.... im really curious to see which time is best for repeated grinding

playlist:
should i mix n match?
which job is overall the best to make a playlist.

[TIME]: [CHECKPOINTS] = [CASH] / [RP]
• 8.4s: (3: 84 Laps) = \$1260/180Rp
• 9.8s: (3: 99 Laps) = \$1260/180
• 2m30s: (100) = \$2940/895
• 4m: (100) = \$5048/1790
• 6m: (100) = \$6728/1790
• 8m: (100) = \$8408/1790
looks like 4 mins is best

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#### Thilly

##### Enthusiast
i want to grind races for best time/profit of both rp and money.

i have made races to accomodate my needs. and was curious if anyone has done this math yet?

i have 6 races setup for different durations, with max checkpoints allowed for each.

can somwone help me do the math plus loading times between jobs ect.... im really curious to see which time is best for repeated grinding

playlist:
should i mix n match?
which job is overall the best to make a playlist.

[TIME]: [CHECKPOINTS] = [CASH] / [RP]
• 8.4s: (3: 84 Laps) = \$1260/180Rp
• 9.8s: (3: 99 Laps) = \$1260/180
• 2m30s: (100) = \$2940/895
• 4m: (100) = \$5048/1790
• 6m: (100) = \$6728/1790
• 8m: (100) = \$8408/1790
I don't quiet understand the first two.
8.4 seconds to complete 3 checkpoints and do 84 laps? Or is it 8.4 seconds per lap x 84 laps pays \$1260
9.8 seconds to do 3 checkpoints or 99 laps?

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#### EyeDuDab

##### Banned
I don't quiet understand the first two.
8.4 seconds to complete 3 checkpoints and do 84 laps? Or is it 8.4 seconds per lap x 84 laps pays \$1260
9.8 seconds to do 3 checkpoints or 99 laps?

8.4 seconds to complete 3 checkpoints and do 84 laps is correct. There are three checkpoints per lap period x 84 laps. Those two are instant win races. 8.4 seconds is the minimum, AKA 84 laps at 3 check points per lap. This allows the player to get paid. anything lower than 84 laps or 8.4 seconds in a race will result in a zero payout in both RP and cash

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#### CBD420

##### Experienced Member
8.4 seconds to complete 3 checkpoints and do 84 laps is correct. There are three checkpoints per lap period x 84 laps. Those two are instant win races. 8.4 seconds is the minimum, AKA 84 laps at 3 check points per lap. This allows the player to get paid. anything lower than 84 laps or 8.4 seconds in a race will result in a zero payout in both RP and cash
I think thats over 10 mins then so 4 mins def better

its at least over 8 mins so 9 or 10 ish

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#### EyeDuDab

##### Banned
I think thats over 10 mins then so 4 mins def better

its at least over 8 mins so 9 or 10 ish
Can you explain please?
Are you referring to the minutes in the playlist? Or the minutes per race? Is there any math that you can show to support 4 minutes plus load times being the best option? I'm going to sit down a little bit later today and seriously try and figure this out on a scientific / mathmatic decision. I've already recorded an AFK session so I can easily determine how long each menu and or job lasted exactly.

In my original calculations, I did not record two players playing the job together and their payouts. I only recorded the host playing the jobs solo. A upon Testing with a friend I noticed Lupe's are much better for both players, not just for the winner. Since I do have everything recorded on video, I will be updating this thread with the two player pay scale as well

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#### CBD420

##### Experienced Member
Can you explain please?
Are you referring to the minutes in the playlist? Or the minutes per race? Is there any math that you can show to support 4 minutes plus load times being the best option? I'm going to sit down a little bit later today and seriously try and figure this out on a scientific / mathmatic decision. I've already recorded an AFK session so I can easily determine how long each menu and or job lasted exactly.

In my original calculations, I did not record two players playing the job together and their payouts. I only recorded the host playing the jobs solo. A upon Testing with a friend I noticed Lupe's are much better for both players, not just for the winner. Since I do have everything recorded on video, I will be updating this thread with the two player pay scale as well
for the 84 laps that would take you to over 8 mins for \$1260 8.4x84=705.6=11mins 45.6seconds
the 4 min race based on \$ and rp is your best bet . it nets 1262 per min which is more per min than the 6 and 8 min races. dont even need to do the rp math the 4 min race is obviously best for RP as well

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#### EyeDuDab

##### Banned
for the 84 laps that would take you to over 8 mins for \$1260 8.4x84=705.6=11mins 45.6seconds
the 4 min race based on \$ and rp is your best bet . it nets 1262 per min which is more per min than the 6 and 8 min races. dont even need to do the rp math the 4 min race is obviously best for RP as well
8.4seconds total race time for 84 laps and 9.9s total race time for 99 lap race

ty for ur input, im spreadsheeting it right now lol

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#### EyeDuDab

##### Banned
::CONCLUSION::
6min Races pay the BEST for Winners!
I can only assume the same for losers as i have not done that math yet if ratios are similar, than the above statement can be assumed correct.

including menu times AND AFK, i have concluded:

2 Racers, Straight Track. Gas Tied durring entire playlist. time starts when invite lobby counts from 60s. ADD 70s if you Restart the Playlist​
• 2.5min - \$43,120/1h3m30s
• 4min - \$60,570/1hr4m30s
• 6min - \$62,790/1hr4m15s
• 8min - \$46,680/1hr6m
i did not run a test on the shorter ones yet, i dont know the second player pay bonus yet.

please check my math

N Navy Davey ....Look! i think i might be as nerdy as you. lol

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#### Thilly

##### Enthusiast
\$63k for one hour.
What are you trying to achieve?
There are much easier ways to make money.
I don't know how long you can make the playlist last, but if it's possible to do it AFK for 24 hours for example, then you'd get \$1.4m
That's seems worth it.
How long are your playlist?

::CONCLUSION::
6min Races pay the BEST for Winners!
I can only assume the same for losers as i have not done that math yet if ratios are similar, than the above statement can be assumed correct.

including menu times AND AFK, i have concluded:

2 Racers, Straight Track. Gas Tied durring entire playlist. time starts when invite lobby counts from 60s. ADD 70s if you Restart the Playlist​
• 2.5min - \$43,120/1h3m30s
• 4min - \$60,570/1hr4m30s
• 6min - \$62,790/1hr4m15s
• 8min - \$46,680/1hr6m
i did not run a test on the shorter ones yet, i dont know the second player pay bonus yet.

please check my math

N Navy Davey ....Look! i think i might be as nerdy as you. lol

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#### EyeDuDab

##### Banned
\$63k for one hour.
What are you trying to achieve?
There are much easier ways to make money.
I don't know how long you can make the playlist last, but if it's possible to do it AFK for 24 hours for example, then you'd get \$1.4m
That's seems worth it.
How long are your playlist?
Very nice observation. I didn't even think about the 24 hour Factor, thanks. Currently everything is up in the air as it's still testing phase to see what is the best method using racist AFK. My next goal is going to be to see how I can grind the same jobs as fast as possible without menu load times and see if a shorter pay is better. Play playlist of either for 6 or 8 minutes is roughly 3 hours, including all menu load times while AFK.

Again I'm not trying to claim that this race method is faster than anything else, I'm only doing this for numbers only, I don't care if it's faster or slower than any other method

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#### Navy Davey

##### ☠️Turkey Time☠️
Super Moderators
I happen to agree with your math!
From what I can see 6 minutes is the sweet spot.....
I also think what everyone else is failing to see is that this is a solo afk method for over \$60k per hour....
That’s just awesome
It’s easy when you have two consoles to say Captures payout better
A well paying afk solo race is what the community needs

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#### EyeDuDab

##### Banned
I happen to agree with your math!
From what I can see 6 minutes is the sweet spot.....
I also think what everyone else is failing to see is that this is a solo afk method for over \$60k per hour....
That’s just awesome
It’s easy when you have two consoles to say Captures payout better
A well paying afk solo race is what the community needs
incorrect about the solo part since no playlist can be run solo without interaction. I will do the math later unless you want to later using the solo numbers. This test was done with two players so the playlist would complete. These numbers are with two players. In the original post the numbers I posted there in the example are the solo results per race, not including menu times and whole playlist results

But the problem solo is now we eliminate some of the menu times as we will be trying to advance to The Race part ASAP so you can move on to the AFK part which is the physical race

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#### EyeDuDab

##### Banned
I just needed to know numbers for my next project, which will be exploiting race bonus RP during the race to try to achieve 3000 bonus RP within each 6 minutes race, This does not include the final payout RP at the end of each race