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I threw this together myself.
Budget: $880 including monitor and keyboard.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/f5zA
I'm pretty sure this is as good as you can get for gaming for this price. If you guys build a better one feel free to post it.
 
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From what i've learned in the last week or so.
That's actually good but leave it to the expert I InfectHead
 
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That's one cheap PSU. I'm not talking about price, I'm talking quality.
 
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That's one cheap PSU. I'm not talking about price, I'm talking quality.
Does it really matter though? I mean it does give out 650w which is what I need. What discerns a good psu from a bad one?
 
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Does it really matter though? I mean it does give out 650w which is what I need. What discerns a good psu from a bad one?
Yes it really matters don't be surprised once something bad happens.
 
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Does it really matter though? I mean it does give out 650w which is what I need. What discerns a good psu from a bad one?
Just the quality of the product itself. In some reviews, it says when the PSU is under constant stress, like when you start a game, that it will make a really loud, screaming noise. That's not attractive at all. Also, it's non-modular, which is a problem if you want cable management to be clean.
 
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Does it really matter though? I mean it does give out 650w which is what I need. What discerns a good psu from a bad one?

Yes. The one you have has a 72% efficiency which is horrible, which means that it actually outputs around 470W. Secondly, the reason it's so cheap is because the parts are most probably crappy, e.g. the transistors, capacitors, cables etc.. This means that it's much more likely to fail, and if so, could also damage other parts of your system. Corsair, Antec, SeaSonic, XFX, etc, all have a very high reputation as they use quality parts, hence their more expensive prices.

When you've got a build as strong as yours, it's definitely recommended to get a trusted brand, because if you get something crap (like the KingWin ABT) it could cost you a whole lot more than the price of the unit itself.

Not only that, but I highly doubt you would even be able to overclock your CPU, or add any new parts to it. I recommend THIS, as it's modular (the case you chose has no cable routing features, so having a modular unit is fantastic), a great unit, and enough to power Crossfire 7850's w/ OC'd 3570K.

With the motherboard you have, it's only got 1 PCI-E 3.0 slot, and 1 PCI-E 2.0 @ x4 slot. Although it does offer Crossfire support, it isn't recommended on x16/x4, as you see quite a big performance decrease between that, and x8/x8. Look HERE. If you want a good budget board, I recommend THIS.

Other than that, for a budget build, it's alright.
 
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Does it really matter though? I mean it does give out 650w which is what I need. What discerns a good psu from a bad one?
Do you like Motherboard toast?
 
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Yes. The one you have has a 72% efficiency which is horrible, which means that it actually outputs around 470W. Secondly, the reason it's so cheap is because the parts are most probably crappy, e.g. the transistors, capacitors, cables etc.. This means that it's much more likely to fail, and if so, could also damage other parts of your system. Corsair, Antec, SeaSonic, XFX, etc, all have a very high reputation as they use quality parts, hence their more expensive prices.

When you've got a build as strong as yours, it's definitely recommended to get a trusted brand, because if you get something crap (like the KingWin ABT) it could cost you a whole lot more than the price of the unit itself.

Not only that, but I highly doubt you would even be able to overclock your CPU, or add any new parts to it. I recommend THIS, as it's modular (the case you chose has no cable routing features, so having a modular unit is fantastic), a great unit, and enough to power Crossfire 7850's w/ OC'd 3570K.

With the motherboard you have, it's only got 1 PCI-E 3.0 slot, and 1 PCI-E 2.0 @ x4 slot. Although it does offer Crossfire support, it isn't recommended on x16/x4, as you see quite a big performance decrease between that, and x8/x8. Look HERE. If you want a good budget board, I recommend THIS.

Other than that, for a budget build, it's alright.
Thanks for the input. It says for that motherboard that "Some Intel Z68 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Ivy Bridge CPUs."
Also it sort of reaches the max of my budget without even a psu. Could you build a pc similar to the one I have made, using the same monitor and same keyboard. Perhaps even the same case? I'd greatly appreciate it.
EDIT: Make sure you chose parts without mail in rebates, as I don't want to take part in that. Budget is $880 at max
 
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Thanks for the input. It says for that motherboard that "Some Intel Z68 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Ivy Bridge CPUs."
Also it sort of reaches the max of my budget without even a psu. Could you build a pc similar to the one I have made, using the same monitor and same keyboard. Perhaps even the same case? I'd greatly appreciate it.
EDIT: Make sure you chose parts without mail in rebates, as I don't want to take part in that. Budget is $880 at max

Keep the build you posted, except:
  • Change the CPU to THIS. [-$50]
  • Change the MoBo to THIS. [+$40]
  • Change the graphics card to THIS. [-$35]
  • Change the power supply to THIS. [+$48]
  • Get rid of the CPU cooler. [-$17]
In doing this, you will save $14, although you do lack the option to overclock the processor. For a gaming build however, it's not necessary.
 
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Keep the build you posted, except:
  • Change the CPU to THIS. [-$50]
  • Change the MoBo to THIS. [+$40]
  • Change the graphics card to THIS. [-$35]
  • Change the power supply to THIS. [+$48]
  • Get rid of the CPU cooler. [-$17]
In doing this, you will save $14, although you do lack the option to overclock the processor. For a gaming build however, it's not necessary.

Alright seems good. I'l keep the 7850. If needed I'll just switch to the 560ti. What about the monitor? Acer 20 inch 5 ms 1600 x 900? Should I change it? Or would it suffice?
 
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Alright seems good. I'l keep the 7850. If needed I'll just switch to the 560ti. What about the monitor? Acer 20 inch 5 ms 1600 x 900? Should I change it? Or would it suffice?
Get a 1920x1080 monitor or there's no point of the 560 Ti.
 
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Alright seems good. I'l keep the 7850. If needed I'll just switch to the 560ti. What about the monitor? Acer 20 inch 5 ms 1600 x 900? Should I change it? Or would it suffice?

I'd recommend a 1080P monitor so you can fully utilize the power of your graphics card. You can pick up a good 23" monitor for around $140 if I'm not mistaken.
 
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first off sick website, all seems fine. I mean its not like your running a server for playing games and being on all day this build seems legit. Props, you should get it!!
 
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