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Analysts think that Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 will sell like hotcakes, but it won't achieve the same level of success as Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3. Their opinions are chiefly based on two factors: this holiday will be crowded full of quality games, and new console hardware will be needed to drive Call of Duty sales further. According to Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter, "I don't think Modern Warfare 3 is going to sell more than the last Black Ops, so I doubt that this one will break a record. I think that Call of Duty is a phenomenon, selling way more than 20 million units annually, and it's unrealistic to think that number can grow meaningfully with each annual release." "I think games like Call of Duty need new console hardware - developers are working with 7-year-old technology in an environment when tablets and smart TVs will soon be just as powerful," Pachter added. RW Baird analyst Colin Sebastian thinks Halo 4 and other titles will derail Black Ops 2 sales. "We are forecasting Black Ops 2 to sell roughly the same number of copies as Modern Warfare 2 in 2011," he predicted. He added, "Overall, I think games like Call of Duty need new console hardware - developers are working with 7-year-old technology in an environment when tablets and smart TVs will soon be just as powerful." "The entire HD market is very soft at the moment, and it is understandable that retailers, publishers, and analysts are likely to be conservative on any Black Ops II forecast. Whether Black Ops II sets any records this year will depend entirely upon the overall engagement of HD consumers, which is largely out of the control of Activision and Treyarch," EEDAR analyst Jesse Divnich proclaimed. However, M2 Research's Billy Pidgeon thinks Black Ops 2 can break records. "Call of Duty should continue to do very well and is likely to continue to break records as it will sell into a larger installed base of consoles," he stated. "I think other big hits will also continue to perform strongly until we get into the console transition and enthusiast spending begins to shift towards hardware again." Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 tripled preorder sales in the first 24 hours of availability over the original Black Ops.​

Source: http://www.strategyinformer.com/new...-break-records-new-console-hardware-is-needed
 
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He says that like its a bad thing? Are games only considered successful if they break records?
 
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He says that like its a bad thing? Are games only considered successful if they break records?

True that. Game success isn't based purely on how many records they break.
 
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"Overall, I think games like Call of Duty need new console hardware - developers are working with 7-year-old technology in an environment when tablets and smart TVs will soon be just as powerful."​

That's too bad hardcore gaming will never take off on tablets and smartphones.

Oh and I always hear how the tablet and smartphone industry is for gaming now than consoles are. Look at Angry Birds, undoubtedly one of the biggest games on the App Store only has 12 million sales. Look at Call of Duty (and other big games) sales' and you will see a vast difference.
 
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^^True good Point but im just giving out what they stated for you guys..
 
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True that. Game success isn't based purely on how many records they break.
Yeah, Plus it has already broken records. There is no reason to expect it won't break more. Futuristic COD has people really intrigued. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the "Haters" would buy it just to SEE.
 
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Yeah, Plus it has already broken records. There is no reason to expect it won't break more. Futuristic COD has people really intrigues. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the "Haters" would buy it just to SEE.

Right. Plus after all the pre-order records the previous CoDs have broken, it's gotta be getting harder. There are only so many people in the US lol.
 
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It will, but it shouldn't. Developers should be rewarded for making new stuff, not using the same **** with maybe a few different colours of camos on the guns for the past 5 years.
 
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Why do people listen to Pachter? He is wrong more than he is right. He says more or less the same **** every year, mostly about the "big" games.

Granted we have Smart TVs and Tablets that are on the verge of matching the current generation of consoles but every year the fan base for such games is getting larger and people will buy the game and I will say more people will.

The only thing that might be affected is the number of people playing the game a few months after release when the newness as worn off.
 
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Why do people listen to Pachter? He is wrong more than he is right. He says more or less the same **** every year, mostly about the "big" games
I watch Pacht-Attack every week on GT. Hate him or love him, he talks things that people want to hear, for the most part. :tongue:

Anyway, I dislike that they are talking about console hardware being old and using that as the reason why COD games aren't looking any better. How much has the visuals of Call of Duty video games on the Xbox 360 and PS3 changed over the last 4-5 years? How come BF3 looks so much better than the previous 4-5 COD games? They used the same console hardware that every other developer is using this generation, so how is it that their game looks better?
 
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A lot of younger people get consoles and buy Call of Duties.
Every year this group of younger kids increase, and all of them buy the newest Call of Duty to look 'cool'.
I'm sure it will break records again, doesn't even matter if the Call of Duty is good or not, it's the newest.
 
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