Underage Gambling in CS:GO

Underage gambling in CS:GO is on the rise, and there isn't anything being done as of now to put a stop to it. Children watching their favourite...
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    Counter Strike: Global Offensive
    has soared to new heights these past few months, luring in tons of new players daily and keeping current players entertained. One of the biggest factors that keeps everyone entertained is the gambling factor that can be associated with the in game weapon finishes, or skins.

    Everything seems like fun and games right? I mean, these are just digital items that have no real value, but that's where you're wrong. Skins in CS:GO can easily be pawned off for PayPal cash or other forms of currency, which is alright if you play within your limits. Time and time again I have seen Twitch Streamers or YouTubers lose thousands of dollars in skins and surprisingly enough, they think nothing of it. This is because they are grown adults with reliable income, but that cannot be said about younger children who play CS:GO.

    A little while back, I was on a random CS:GO server just minding my own business. I had the pleasure of listening in on a young teenager, no more than 13 or 14 years old, talking about how he had already lost around $200 worth of skins in the past month. That got me thinking, regular gambling attractions require the patron to be of a certain age to gamble, but how would one enforce this in a game such as Counter Strike?

    If I wanted to, I could list off a dozen websites that allow users to deposit CS:GO skins, convert those skins into a currency value on that site and then use said currency to play various gambling games such as blackjack, or even something as simple as a coin flip, all in hopes of winning the jackpot. See, gambling on one of the many third party CS:GO gambling sites is no different from regular gambling. Players will still become addicted, and there isn't any good way to iron out whether it's a competent adult playing or if it's a child.

    Children mimicking their favourite Twitch Streamers could be one of the roots of the problem, as there is surprisingly a large market for CS:GO gambling on Twitch. A small survey was conducted on Reddit where users who had gambled underage were asked to share just how much they had lost. Obviously the results aren't concrete, but this is definitely a good guide to show us just what the underage gambling community in CS:GO is like.


    Having children around a gambling scene that is so easily accessible is a very bad idea as the results have shown. A child only needs a skin worth a few bucks to get started, and we all know that once you've started and have become addicted, it's very hard to quit. What should Valve, or any of the other third party companies do to combat the rise of underage gambling in CS:GO? It's far too accessible and the end results are devastating. What do you think? What guidelines should be in place to prevent children from blowing hundreds in online gambling? Leave your thoughts below!

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  1. hoopsure
    First of all how do kids even get that kind of money. Or how do they even get a PayPal or something to spend it on. Second there isn't much they can do unless they make an age verification thing and they need some sort of check on you to make sure your not under aged
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    1. Crooks
      It isn't hard to take mommy and daddy's credit card, or get yourself started off with a small investment and work up from there.
    2. hoopsure
      Let's see if they take the card they commit fraud but they don't know that cause they are to young to know legal stuff.
  2. Four Quid
    I completely agree with this. There should be more done to restrict who can view or participate in gambling, especially in gaming as it's so easy to want more and more.

    Gambling can lead to addictions, just like Alcohol, Drugs, and other addictions. It can destroy lives and is something that shouldn't even exist in my opinion, especially to children.

    I remember when I turned 18, I received 8 thousand pounds from my nan. I remember stumbling onto a gaming related website ( can't remember the name ) and it involved playing games to win money, but you had to pay to play. I ended up wasting 3 thousand pounds!! and that set me up to have gambling issues for 6 years.

    I wasn't addicted per-say, as I didn't do it that much gambling over the years, but when I did, I couldn't stop. It's only been a few years where I don't have the urges anymore ( mainly down to reading other people's stories and realising how devastating it can be on your life ).

    Moral of the story, they shouldn't allow gambling at all, especially allow children to participate in it, or even just watch it!!

    In the UK, You can't start gambling at 18....
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    1. hoopsure
      And if you have kids start gambling then **** gets REALLY aweful.
    2. iSeeDeadPixels
      I'm not trying to sound mean or anything, but I think you're taking this too personally. Gambling on 3rd party CS:GO sites has been a huge thing for a while know (or at least for the few years I've been playing) and people have already had this idea. It's nothing new that people, or children, are losing money over digital items. Though you do have to think logically and realistically.

      Opening cases is just as much gambling as is using a 3rd party gambling site. Valve, and Steam as a whole, are increasingly getting more money because they're attracting more and more people and those same people are being sucking into the money grab that skins are.

      Let's say, best case scenario, some lawyer or someone with a giant petition gets Valve to join forces in the fight against online gambling and they can't find a way to enforce anything. Worst case scenario could be somewhere along the lines of Valve using their mass amounts of money to fund as many lawyers as they need to find a fix. Or somewhere in the middle could be that Valve decides to shut everyone up and they put some small fine print in they're ToS saying that "We don't condone nor are we liable for any lost items to 3rd party organizations." or maybe all the 3rd party gambling sites will just put in they're ToS that you have to be 18+ to gamble, but they won't enforce it because everyone is driven by money. Regardless the outcome isn't going to fix much.

      It's a shame kids are being sucked into this fantasy world where skins matter and they want to spend money, but really no one is going to do anything. Steam and Valve are making a fortune off of cases, and if 3rd party gambling goes, so will the cases.
  3. 3xTiNcT
    Well if people listened to this....

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    Pretty much it's their own fault.
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    2. denz
      hoopsure mature is in US. It's like 17+. PEGI is 18+ in uk.
    3. Keeley Hazell
      M has always been 17+ in the US... but yeah you're totally right. Not the kids' fault it's definitely the parents. It's like when you go on GTA5 online and hear a 6 year old talking **** in game chat.. I was playing video games when I was younger but not talking to strangers online, let alone gamble for some lame skins lol
    4. 3xTiNcT
      For real lol
  4. ReptilliousMods
    Can agree, I used to watch streamers betting and i ended up loosing 200$ from where i was
  5. JoinTheResistance
    I don't know about you, but when I first found out about CS:GO skins, I really wasn't sure what it was about. I mean, I was watching people b**** cuz they paid 100$+ for a factory new skin, but got scammed and received a field tested one that's worth 1/3 of what they paid. At first, I thought "wow, that's a big difference, but at least it's some sort of virtual money, right?" NOPE! There are people spending 100$+ on FCKING SKINS! Like WTF is wrong with you people??
    And then there's gambling... Instead of throwing your money out of the window, go buy a game that's going to give you 30+ hours of entertainment, with the 100, 200 or even 500$ that you're planning on wasting on skins! Plus, can't you like download the skins online and install them locally? I know only you would see them, but so what?
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    2. Neokilla
      JoinTheResistance actually skin makers recieve about $40,000 on average per skin that has made it into the game
    3. JoinTheResistance
      Wow! That's a lot! I think I'm going to start making skins for csgo now :tongue:
    4. Neokilla
      Good luck
  6. ZacOnCrac
    My friend paid off half of his Schoolies fees with the winnings of 'CSGO Double'.


    Then lost $400.
    In the same day.
    At school.
    Man this is becoming a problem.
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  7. (-_-)
    Wow, I actually wrote a 2 page essay on this topic. Online gambling in general has made it very easy for children to participate...
  8. XeClutch
    I've always thought that if it's the kids money, it's their business. Being in the market can teach some very useful life skills. If they lose it all, they'll either decide that gambling isn't for them or they will adapt and get smarter about it. If they win, they'll either get cocky and eventually lose it all (which will knock down their ego and teach them a lesson) or they will continue making money. In order to win, you have to lose at least once. You have to know what it's like to lose. You have to understand the feeling of financial loss and that will motivate you to do better with everything.

    As long as they're not using their parents' money it really shouldn't be a big deal.
    1. denz
      Lets take an educated guesstimate what % of a kid's (let's say 16 and under ) money gambled is their parent's.
    2. Crooks
      A small Reddit sample https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sk2P90AV8qqHP8yozNhRKvuHP_D90yLz6vJ5raDcQPU/edit?pli=1#gid=805410037
    3. XeClutch
      I see. Seems like it is being ruined for those who are being responsible about it.
  9. denz
    Kids see their favourite sick 'strimmers' m00000e/phantomlord/nearly every other csgo streamer gamble away fat stacks and they want to be like their idols.

    Then they cry for losing which is top kek.
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  10. Pyroman
    I read an article earlier about underage gambling in my state(Virginia) and a bill was proposed to ban gambling sites as a whole here. Idk how they would do that but it's getting some attention.