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I liked the idea that people without the DLC might be able to use hybrids that contained parts of DLC weapons. I had tried a few experiments and failed, I'll explain further in at first how I attempted and failed, but I had my puzzle solved somewhat when hosting an instant 50 lobby for some friends. Courtesy of Blakwidowstang's gamesave, there were hybrid weapons that did just this. I could wield them, despite not having any DLC content on the Xbox. Perusing the forums a bit I couldn't really find any good explanation of how to do this, so I decided to share the method I found to work effectively.​
There are 5 separate sections to this.​
**The process is the same for 2 - 5, if all you want is to use a DLC item without DLC.**
1. How to use the DLC items in hybrid weapons.​
2. How to simply use DLC weapons without DLC.​
3. How to use DLC grenades.​
4. How to use DLC Shields.​
5. How to use DLC relics.​
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1. Using DLC Barrels/Parts in Hybrids​
So, we're going to use the 12 Pounder, and assume you have none of the DLC actually downloaded on your Xbox. So the 12 Pounder is a weapon from the DLC Captain Scarlett and Her Pirate's Booty.​
Here is the code for the 12 Pounder we'll use. BL2(hwAAAAA/dQFBB4IDCSGTLaAgQ3GCsACFGwoIFBUo/v+nIMxBgoLw)​
Now I just went straight for the simple attempt, replacing the DLC barrel on the generic Vladof Launcher I made for the tutorial. As you can see this doesn't work. It doesn't let you just replace the barrel with the DLC barrel. See the picture below.​
image.png
What we must do to use the GD_Orchid_BossWeapons.Launcher.L_Barrel_Torgue_12Pounder barrel on another weapon that ANY user can hold is actually very simple. Instead of replacing one part, the barrel, you can easily just replace every other part on the original DLC weapon, with another weapon. What I mean by this is, you will instead copy every part from the "Rugged Roaster" from Type to Accessory #2 without replacing the Barrel.​
image.png
RED - As you can see from the first picture, we replaced all the parts on the original 12 Pounder in our bank except the barrel. Without the red warning sign.​
BLUE - Preference to change the name from the DLC Title if you prefer.​
Obviously this works to stack barrels for hybrid DLC weapons that can be used by non-DLC users, and for several DLC barrel effects in usable weapons.​
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2. Short and simple explanation. Using DLC weapons as they are normally.​
!!!Still must be banked and treated as hybrid weapons!!!​
The above explanation is for full on hybrid weapons to contain a barrel effect. To simply make a DLC weapon usable in game for anyone, all you actually need to do to make any DLC weapon usable, and even keep the pink Seraphim text is just replace the Balance with that of a normally accessible weapon.​
image.png
With the above picture, the Breach Seraphim.​
Replace GD_Orchid_RaidWeapons.AssaultRifle.Seraphim.Orchid_Seraph_Seraphim_Balance of the authentic Breach Seraphim, with any other balance in the dropdown that isn't DLC. In the picture we used GD_Weap_AssaultRifle.A_Weapons.AR_Dahl.​
Now in game you will have the Breach Seraphim, Pink weapon text and all, despite not having the DLC!​
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3. Grenades​
The way to use DLC grenades is just as easy as weapons. All you need to replace is the Type and Balance (Possibly just balance).​
For this example we'll use the Crossfire, a Seraph grenade. BL2(BwAAAAAJDgMFDQvAUBAyWQhgAIMdAwuDB2AGw/9/HUMTwwjDA+A=)​
All you need to do is replace Balance.​
We replaced types GD_Iris_SeraphItems.Crossfire.Iris_Seraph_GrenadeMod_Crossfire with GD_GrenadeMods.A_Item.GrenadeMod_Standard. While also replacing the Balance of the Seraph item with GD_GrenadeMods.A_Item.GM_Standard.​
Example below.​
image.png
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4. DLC Shields

Just like all the above methods, all you are replacing here is the Balance of the shield.​
Here is an example of a shield with the balance pre-swapped already. BL2(BwAAAAByagEAF32ggxAyWQFEBIQGRADj/////////z8A4w==)​
That's a Captain Blade's Manly Man shield that ANYONE can use!​
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5. Using DLC relics.

As straightforward as all the other sections, all we are replacing to enable a DLC relic like the Might of the Seraph to work without DLC, is the Balance.
Search through relic parts, or paste the codes of other relics into Gibbed's editor to find alternative Balances for relics. Such as GD_Artifacts.A_Item.A_Elemental_Status_Rare.​
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Hope this helps some people, and that there isn't another tutorial like this floating around.​
Check out Blakwidowstang's Codes and Parts Gallery here for all of the DLC weapons.​
Credits:​
For finding DLC weapon codes to import and test: http://****withfire.net/bl2db/weapon_db.php
Blakwidowstang's instant 50 gamesave with the DLC hybrids that proved to me it could be done: http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/level-50-boosting-saves-xbox-pc.856940/
DEFTONED: Weapons in Blakwidowstang's save.​
Gibbed's Borderlands 2 Save Editor: http://blog.gib.me/2013/01/11/borderlands-2-save-editor-revision-146/
 
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I liked the idea that people without the DLC might be able to use hybrids that contained parts of DLC weapons. I had tried a few experiments and failed, I'll explain further in at first how I attempted and failed, but I had my puzzle solved somewhat when hosting an instant 50 lobby for some friends. Courtesy of Blakwidowstang's gamesave, there were hybrid weapons that did just this. I could wield them, despite not having any DLC content on the Xbox. Perusing the forums a bit I couldn't really find any good explanation of how to do this, so I decided to share the method I found to work effectively.​
Near the very bottom is the short and sweet tutorial on how to use DLC weapons as-is, the text directly below is how to use DLC barrels in hybrid mods.​
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Using DLC Barrels/Parts in Hybrids
So, we're going to use the 12 Pounder, and assume you have none of the DLC actually downloaded on your Xbox. So the 12 Pounder is a weapon from the DLC Captain Scarlett and Her Pirate's Booty.
Here is the code for the 12 Pounder we'll use. BL2(hwAAAAA/dQFBB4IDCSGTLaAgQ3GCsACFGwoIFBUo/v+nIMxBgoLw)
Now I just went straight for the simple attempt, replacing the DLC barrel on the generic Vladof Launcher I made for the tutorial. As you can see this doesn't work. It doesn't let you just replace the barrel with the DLC barrel. See the picture below.​
image.png
What we must do to use the GD_Orchid_BossWeapons.Launcher.L_Barrel_Torgue_12Pounder barrel on another weapon that ANY user can hold is actually very simple. Instead of replacing one part, the barrel, you can easily just replace every other part on the original DLC weapon, with another weapon. What I mean by this is, you will instead copy every part from the "Rugged Roaster" from Type to Accessory #2 without replacing the Barrel.​
image.png
RED - As you can see from the first picture, we replaced all the parts on the original 12 Pounder in our bank except the barrel. Without the red warning sign.
BLUE - Preference to change the name from the DLC Title if you prefer.
Obviously this works to stack barrels for hybrid DLC weapons that can be used by non-DLC users, and for several DLC barrel effects in usable weapons.​
-------------------------------------------------------------
Short and simple explanation. Using DLC weapons as they are normally.
!!!Still must be banked and treated as hybrid weapons!!!​
The above explanation is for full on hybrid weapons to contain a barrel effect. To simply make a DLC weapon usable in game for anyone, all you actually need to do to make any DLC weapon usable, and even keep the pink Seraphim text is just replace the Balance with that of a normally accessible weapon.​
image.png
With the above picture, the Breach Seraphim.​
Replace GD_Orchid_RaidWeapons.AssaultRifle.Seraphim.Orchid_Seraph_Seraphim_Balance of the authentic Breach Seraphim, with any other balance in the dropdown that isn't DLC. In the picture we used GD_Weap_AssaultRifle.A_Weapons.AR_Dahl.​
Now in game you will have the Breach Seraphim, Pink weapon text and all, despite not having the DLC!​
Hope this helps some people, and that there isn't another tutorial like this floating around.​
Credits:​
For finding DLC weapon codes to import and test: http://****withfire.net/bl2db/weapon_db.php
Blakwidowstang's instant 50 gamesave with the DLC hybrids that proved to me it could be done: http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/level-50-boosting-saves-xbox-pc.856940/
Very Sweet Man! Awesome job/find!:smile:
 
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Thanks! Added more information, also found the same works for grenades. Pretty awesome, not needing DLC for the DLC items.
 
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Thanks! Added more information, also found the same works for grenades. Pretty awesome, not needing DLC for the DLC items.
Yeah, you tried mixing DLC's with one another on same gun? I just tried real quick with this method a little. I don't think that can be done.
 
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Yeah, you tried mixing DLC's with one another on same gun? I just tried real quick with this method a little. I don't think that can be done.

Haven't fiddled around too much with hybrid DLC weapons yet since I was having the issue getting them usable til now! I'll be doing so soon though so I'm excited to play around with the new effects and projectiles.

Working on a few more sections in the tutorial of sorts. Explaining how to also use DLC shields in case the pattern here isn't clear! :biggrin:
 
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Haven't fiddled around too much with hybrid DLC weapons yet since I was having the issue getting them usable til now! I'll be doing so soon though so I'm excited to play around with the new effects and projectiles.

Working on a few more sections in the tutorial of sorts. Explaining how to also use DLC shields in case the pattern here isn't clear! :biggrin:
This is slick man, definitely cool for those who don't have the DLC's to use weapons with DLC effects.
 
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Yeah, you tried mixing DLC's with one another on same gun? I just tried real quick with this method a little. I don't think that can be done.

Wouldn't be possible because the Set ID's have to match. Set ID's determine what DLC it is. However, very good find OP!
 
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Wouldn't be possible because the Set ID's have to match. Set ID's determine what DLC it is. However, very good find OP!
Yeah, I was hoping to get lucky, ha ha. This is sweet though.
 
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Wouldn't be possible because the Set ID's have to match. Set ID's determine what DLC it is. However, very good find OP!

Thank you! Yeah it's a shame but at least we can still swap parts between weapons both on the DLC and the stock game's parts. Still a ton of fun combinations and weapon ideas to make with that alone!
 
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Thank you! Yeah it's a shame but at least we can still swap parts between weapons both on the DLC and the stock game's parts. Still a ton of fun combinations and weapon ideas to make with that alone!
Anyone with the DLC's could always do that. I think this find is just cool for those who don't have the DLC's to be able to have a weapon or item with a DLC part.
 
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Anyone with the DLC's could always do that. I think this find is just cool for those who don't have the DLC's to be able to have a weapon or item with a DLC part.

FYI, I just remembered by experimenting awhile ago. If you use a different balance and put crazy damage bonuses to it, it will not stick. Once you bank it, it will revert back to a low damage gun. You will notice that all of the barrels you put into it on Gibbed will be deleted. So technically this only good for "legit" items even though they still need to be banked.
 
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Nice tutorial and thanks for the mention but I truely don't deserve the credit for the hybrid works. I didn't even realize there were hybrids in the bank in that save set and had to take a look myself just now to be sure. I apologize to anyone for including their work without permission/credit but at the time the save was created with the method to prevent it from being opened with Gibbed's easily so I hope it's not a big deal. At a brief glance they appear to be weapons from Deftoned's imgur gallery so credits definitely go to him. ZeroToned ZeroToned , I sent you a PM.
 
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Nice tutorial and thanks for the mention but I truely don't deserve the credit for the hybrid works. I didn't even realize there were hybrids in the bank in that save set and had to take a look myself just now to be sure. I apologize to anyone for including their work without permission/credit but at the time the save was created with the method to prevent it from being opened with Gibbed's easily so I hope it's not a big deal. At a brief glance they appear to be weapons from Deftoned's imgur gallery so credits definitely go to him. ZeroToned ZeroToned , I sent you a PM.

Hey thanks for that! I'll be sure to credit DEFTONED as well.
 
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I liked the idea that people without the DLC might be able to use hybrids that contained parts of DLC weapons. I had tried a few experiments and failed, I'll explain further in at first how I attempted and failed, but I had my puzzle solved somewhat when hosting an instant 50 lobby for some friends. Courtesy of Blakwidowstang's gamesave, there were hybrid weapons that did just this. I could wield them, despite not having any DLC content on the Xbox. Perusing the forums a bit I couldn't really find any good explanation of how to do this, so I decided to share the method I found to work effectively.

There are 5 separate sections to this.

**The process is the same for 2 - 5, if all you want is to use a DLC item without DLC.**

1. How to use the DLC items in hybrid weapons.

2. How to simply use DLC weapons without DLC.

3. How to use DLC grenades.

4. How to use DLC Shields.

5. How to use DLC relics.
-------------------------------------------------------------
1. Using DLC Barrels/Parts in Hybrids

So, we're going to use the 12 Pounder, and assume you have none of the DLC actually downloaded on your Xbox. So the 12 Pounder is a weapon from the DLC Captain Scarlett and Her Pirate's Booty.

Here is the code for the 12 Pounder we'll use. BL2(hwAAAAA/dQFBB4IDCSGTLaAgQ3GCsACFGwoIFBUo/v+nIMxBgoLw)


Now I just went straight for the simple attempt, replacing the DLC barrel on the generic Vladof Launcher I made for the tutorial. As you can see this doesn't work. It doesn't let you just replace the barrel with the DLC barrel. See the picture below.

image.png

What we must do to use the GD_Orchid_BossWeapons.Launcher.L_Barrel_Torgue_12Pounder barrel on another weapon that ANY user can hold is actually very simple. Instead of replacing one part, the barrel, you can easily just replace every other part on the original DLC weapon, with another weapon. What I mean by this is, you will instead copy every part from the "Rugged Roaster" from Type to Accessory #2 without replacing the Barrel.

image.png


RED - As you can see from the first picture, we replaced all the parts on the original 12 Pounder in our bank except the barrel. Without the red warning sign.

BLUE - Preference to change the name from the DLC Title if you prefer.

Obviously this works to stack barrels for hybrid DLC weapons that can be used by non-DLC users, and for several DLC barrel effects in usable weapons.

-------------------------------------------------------------
2. Short and simple explanation. Using DLC weapons as they are normally.
!!!Still must be banked and treated as hybrid weapons!!!

The above explanation is for full on hybrid weapons to contain a barrel effect. To simply make a DLC weapon usable in game for anyone, all you actually need to do to make any DLC weapon usable, and even keep the pink Seraphim text is just replace the Balance with that of a normally accessible weapon.

image.png

With the above picture, the Breach Seraphim.

Replace GD_Orchid_RaidWeapons.AssaultRifle.Seraphim.Orchid_Seraph_Seraphim_Balance of the authentic Breach Seraphim, with any other balance in the dropdown that isn't DLC. In the picture we used GD_Weap_AssaultRifle.A_Weapons.AR_Dahl.

Now in game you will have the Breach Seraphim, Pink weapon text and all, despite not having the DLC!


-------------------------------------------------------------
3. Grenades

The way to use DLC grenades is just as easy as weapons. All you need to replace is the Type and Balance (Possibly just balance).

For this example we'll use the Crossfire, a Seraph grenade. BL2(BwAAAAAJDgMFDQvAUBAyWQhgAIMdAwuDB2AGw/9/HUMTwwjDA+A=)

All you need to do is replace Balance.

We replaced types GD_Iris_SeraphItems.Crossfire.Iris_Seraph_GrenadeMod_Crossfire with GD_GrenadeMods.A_Item.GrenadeMod_Standard. While also replacing the Balance of the Seraph item with GD_GrenadeMods.A_Item.GM_Standard.

Example below.
image.png


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4. DLC Shields


Just like all the above methods, all you are replacing here is the Balance of the shield.

Here is an example of a shield with the balance pre-swapped already. BL2(BwAAAAByagEAF32ggxAyWQFEBIQGRADj/////////z8A4w==)

That's a Captain Blade's Manly Man shield that ANYONE can use!


-------------------------------------------------------------
5. Using DLC relics.

As straightforward as all the other sections, all we are replacing to enable a DLC relic like the Might of the Seraph to work without DLC, is the Balance.

Search through relic parts, or paste the codes of other relics into Gibbed's editor to find alternative Balances for relics. Such as GD_Artifacts.A_Item.A_Elemental_Status_Rare.


-------------------------------------------------------------
Hope this helps some people, and that there isn't another tutorial like this floating around.

Check out Blakwidowstang's Codes and Parts Gallery here for all of the DLC weapons.


Credits:

For finding DLC weapon codes to import and test: http://****withfire.net/bl2db/weapon_db.php

Blakwidowstang's instant 50 gamesave with the DLC hybrids that proved to me it could be done: http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/level-50-boosting-saves-xbox-pc.856940/

DEFTONED: Weapons in Blakwidowstang's save.

Gibbed's Borderlands 2 Save Editor: http://blog.gib.me/2013/01/11/borderlands-2-save-editor-revision-146/
great explanation, bookmarked :smile:
 
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Wonderfull tutorial, I haven't tried it yet but it sure does sound... Sound. Can't wait to try it on my Level 61 lobby! Idk who made it but I love it!
 
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Wonderfull tutorial, I haven't tried it yet but it sure does sound... Sound. Can't wait to try it on my Level 61 lobby! Idk who made it but I love it!
This shouldn't work anymore since hybrids have been patched.
 
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Thanks for telling me! You saved me a lot of time. I would be trying to make the Dang guns to work now!
 
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I don't have any of the DLC's so I was just wondering what the best gun is.
 
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