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Old 08-21-2009, 07:35 PM   #1
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Xbox 360 Hacks – Hacks, Cracks, Mods, Homebrew, Utilities. Xbox Suicide Command?

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I have stated many times, that if M$ wanted to, they could completely redure the console usless. So, is this next bit of information true or not? Lets see:
It has been said, by a laid off M$ employee (hardware tester) that; there is a “super secret kill-switch remote suicide self-destruct command,” and; that if [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]Microsoft[/COLOR][/COLOR] really wanted to they can remotely trigger it, causing Xbox 360 to fry itself and die. This was said to be intended as a last resort option, if a fight against Xbox Live cheaters or major league professional game piracy ever got real big. To the person’s knowledge, it has only been done in test situation in the lab, but if they wanted to, they could have the regular [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]system [COLOR=blue! important]security[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] sweeps over Xbox Live activate the kill command when it found a compromised hacked Xbox 360 system. It works by having the Xbox overload a fuse and “pop” the fuse. The Xbox 360 will then crash and then will get an “Red Ring of Death Core Digital” error when the boot-up test comes back with a major component hardware failure. This is not the same as bricking or crashing a system since this will actually do physical damage to the motherboard.
We all know about the [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]CPU[/COLOR][/COLOR] eFuses, and this would be quite easy to do, just blow ALL the fuses in the CPU, and the console is inert. What is meant by physical damage to the mainboard, is that it would damage components on it. I don’t put it past anyone, and it is easy to do. Simply open up a high voltage line to 5V chips, and they’re all fried. Does M$ have this? You decide…
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1st. Interesting Thing:
There is a super secret kill-switch remote suicide self-destruct command that if Microsoft really wanted to they can remotely trigger and tell an Xbox 360 to fry itself and die. This was intended to be a last resort option if a fight against Xbox Live cheaters or major league professional game piracy ever got big. To their knowledge it has only been done in test situation in the lab but if they wanted to they could have the regular system security sweeps over Xbox Live activate a kill command when it found a compromised hacked Xbox 360 system. It works by having the Xbox overload an efuse and "pop" the efuse. The Xbox 360 will then crash and then will get an "Red Ring of Death Core Digital" error when the boot-up test comes back with a major component hardware failure. This is not the same as bricking or crashing a system since this will actually do physical damage to the motherboard.
It is not technically illegal for them to do this since attempting to hack an Xbox 360 is a violation of the Xbox Live Terms of Service EULA and a violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Microsoft's entire business model on the Xbox is based around them loosing money on the cost of the hardware and then to make it up from game publishing royalties. If game software ever got easy enough for mainstream consumers to try it would nuke all chances of the Xbox 360 business being profitable. Likewise the entire idea behind online gameplay on the Xbox Live network is that it is a secured walled garden that is impenetrable to hacking and cheating. If there was rampant cheating it would cause people to loose faith in the network service and not want to keep subscribing to it. This is Microsoft's "nuclear" option. Currently they have not had to show this trump card since they can ban consoles and users from the Xbox Live network but if it ever really got out of hand they have the option of pulling the trigger and causing and Xbox 360 to melt down and kill itself via software. A "popped" Xbox 360 is not really a fire hazard since the BIOS will shut down the CPU and GPU after the boot test fails and the only thing that remains powered is the Red Ring of Death after the hardware failure mode is triggered. Now if you send a "popped" Ex-Xbox to a RnR repair facility they will have no problem recognizing the "popped" fuse and they will not offer to repair your Xbox 360 since they know that you were an naughty boy and they had to kill your Xbox.
Besides considering the fault intolerant design of the Xbox 360 hardware it is not too hard to get them to break. They will never ever admit to this but if they wanted to they could kill and Xbox just by running a self-destruct command over Xbox Live. Think about that the next time you harass a woman and tell her to show you her boobs over Xbox Live. Again Microsoft will never admit this but the back door kill-switch was built into the Xbox 360 system.
Update: Technologizer.com found the section of the Xbox Live Terms of Service Agreement that you would be breaking to take a hacked Xbox console on Xbox Live.
"(c) upgrade, modify, withdraw, suspend, or discontinue any functionality or feature of the Service, any game or other content available or accessible through the Service, or any hardware or software associated with the Service or with an original Xbox or Xbox 360 console, or personal computer, from time to time without notice, which may involve the automatic download of related software directly to your original Xbox, Xbox 360 console, or personal computer, including software that prevents you from accessing the Service, playing pirated games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices."

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Old 08-21-2009, 07:53 PM   #2
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Smells like some kind of ****. Whether, bull, dog or rat, I am not sure.
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:10 PM   #4
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doubt it
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:39 PM   #5
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highly doubt it
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:45 PM   #6
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:46 PM   #7
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Actually it's still technically illegal. Even if in violation of whatever the hell act they want to put out, they can't just use that as a basis until they prove so. Remember the whole "innocent until proven guilty" deal? Unless Microsoft was able to prove that each person they fried was in violation of this (legally), they could actually be sued over it.
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Old 08-22-2009, 05:37 AM   #8
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This is a feature that IBM put in the processors not Microsoft.
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Old 08-22-2009, 05:41 AM   #9
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No, wouldnt it be criminal damage
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:28 PM   #10
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i really dont think that this **** is true. the only line they can do this over is your ethernet. now i dont know anything about ethernet but im assuming that ethernet is all data and no power so how would you send a high voltage threw it?
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They would send a command over it which then triggers a high voltage from somewhere else.
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:39 PM   #12
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I think I lost some brain cells reading that...

It's retarded. Someone just made it up so you would **** yourself and by the looks of it you already have
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:42 PM   #13
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not a doubt in my mind they have it, this is what happens when a power surge fries your xbox, and this can be triggered from software allowing voltage flow, it's really easy actually.
by law they couldn't use this unless u were using your xbox to ****ing mass produce a bomb or something, using it as a supercomputer. so it doesn't matter. they can't just use this. it's our hardware, they can block us from their service, that is it.
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:45 PM   #14
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Well everyone knows the new update rewrites the bootloader, what if you just write zeros to it? Yeah it kills it. basically this is saying Microsoft CAN but really I doubt they ever will. Its not like they have a backup killswitch plan
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I think they can do it, but they don't have any right to. Because we did pay for these Xbox 360s. Also, they would have to prove it, like others have previously said.
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Old 08-22-2009, 11:58 PM   #16
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I think someone wrote this just to get people like you guys fired up and talking he is probably laughing in his chair right know knowing he got what he wanted
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Old 08-23-2009, 12:05 AM   #17
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Its true, with the new update we proved that if they wanted they could kill any console, I seriously doubt they have an plans to do so.
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They could just blow all the efuses for the same effect...
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:17 AM   #19
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Actually it's still technically illegal. Even if in violation of whatever the hell act they want to put out, they can't just use that as a basis until they prove so. Remember the whole "innocent until proven guilty" deal? Unless Microsoft was able to prove that each person they fried was in violation of this (legally), they could actually be sued over it.
not true ms is only allowed to bann you from xbl
if they fry it than they have just have destroyed your personal property and they can than be sued for damages
and no xbox 360 has a kill switch in them it costs to much to put on in every xbox ever made and even than at most they can do is sue you for having a modified console(depending on the mods you have and whether their illegal or not)
i dont do **** like that all i did was temporally flashed the bios on my xbox installed a raid creator modded 2 hdds i bought(2 300 GB hdds with 10000 RPM each and 16 Mb of cache each)( i made my 2 hdds read as one so instead of 2 300 GB its one 600GB but if one does than im screwed) and changed the amount of ram on the xbox 360 32 bit processor from 2 GB of ram to 4 GBs
and ms cant fry my xbox cause if they do im gona file the biggest law suit it wont even be funny
at most they can refuse to fix my xbox(which i dont need i just do it my self) and maybe bann me from live but even than you cant check hardware modifications if your xbox gets unpluged when your done using it
honnestly ms cant do jack **** cause you own your xbox they dont you CAN NOT license hardware with out a contract notarized and signed by both partys
so ms can not do jack **** to your xbox besides bann it from live

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Its true, with the new update we proved that if they wanted they could kill any console, I seriously doubt they have an plans to do so.
no they couldnt ok there is no kill switch in a xbox 360 i have seen killswitches in computers before their expensive as hell and its not worth the money to install one in every console world wide
the only way they could do it is if they released a update that would flash the mother board and have a code in the update shut down your xbox in the middle of installing the update frying your motherboard making it useless
the only way and even than its not worth it cause it justs wastes your time developing that **** when you could be inventing something that could make you money

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They could just blow all the efuses for the same effect...
or they can fry your motherboard i can replace efuses what about a fried motherboard it just becomes useless at that point
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:25 AM   #20
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not true ms is only allowed to bann you from xbl
if they fry it than they have just have destroyed your personal property and they can than be sued for damages
and no xbox 360 has a kill switch in them it costs to much to put on in every xbox ever made and even than at most they can do is sue you for having a modified console(depending on the mods you have and whether their illegal or not)
i dont do **** like that all i did was temporally flashed the bios on my xbox installed a raid creator modded 2 hdds i bought(2 300 GB hdds with 10000 RPM each and 16 Mb of cache each)( i made my 2 hdds read as one so instead of 2 300 GB its one 600GB but if one does than im screwed) and changed the amount of ram on the xbox 360 32 bit processor from 2 GB of ram to 4 GBs
and ms cant fry my xbox cause if they do im gona file the biggest law suit it wont even be funny
at most they can refuse to fix my xbox(which i dont need i just do it my self) and maybe bann me from live but even than you cant check hardware modifications if your xbox gets unpluged when your done using it
honnestly ms cant do jack **** cause you own your xbox they dont you CAN NOT license hardware with out a contract notarized and signed by both partys
so ms can not do jack **** to your xbox besides bann it from live

what the **** are you going on about? Ok let me get some **** straight here, shall we?
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not true ms is only allowed to bann you from xbl
if they fry it than they have just have destroyed your personal property and they can than be sued for damages
Technically true, but then the person can also be sued for bypass of the software protection.
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and no xbox 360 has a kill switch in them it costs to much to put on in every xbox ever made and even than at most they can do is sue you for having a modified console(depending on the mods you have and whether their illegal or not)
Actually it does. Every xbox 360 has an array of efuses which cannot be reversed once blown. If all of these efuses are blown, then the xbox should be bricked. They cost Microsoft almost nothing.
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i dont do **** like that all i did was temporally flashed the bios on my xbox
Wait, what?
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installed a raid creator modded 2 hdds i bought(2 300 GB hdds with 10000 RPM each and 16 Mb of cache each)( i made my 2 hdds read as one so instead of 2 300 GB its one 600GB but if one does than im screwed
funny considering the xbox 360 has a maximum hard-drive limit of around 250GB meaning one of your drives is rendered completely useless while the other is still limited (according to your magical array that you got working here on the 360).
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and changed the amount of ram on the xbox 360 32 bit processor from 2 GB of ram to 4 GBs
The xbox 360 has 512mb of RAM, not 2GB. Furthermore, it is nearly impossible for you to just magically add more RAM to your 360 by any conventional means aside from the new XNA devkit sidecar which adds an additional 512mb for debugging.
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and ms cant fry my xbox cause if they do im gona file the biggest law suit it wont even be funny
You need two things for a lawsuit:
- liability
- damages
Considering you can't just simply request like $1,000,000 in damages over a single burnt xbox, you're SOL and good luck with that lawsuit buddy.
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at most they can refuse to fix my xbox(which i dont need i just do it my self) and maybe bann me from live but even than you cant check hardware modifications if your xbox gets unpluged when your done using it
Microsoft has ways of checking modifications to the system, they aren't stupid you know. Now they won't ban over running a custom kernel offline, but try going onto xbox live with that **** and they will bring down the hammer HARD.
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honnestly ms cant do jack **** cause you own your xbox they dont you CAN NOT license hardware with out a contract notarized and signed by both partys
so ms can not do jack **** to your xbox besides bann it from live
That's a gray area there. Remember the guy who got arrested for modifying xboxes? There are laws that you CAN get in trouble over, such as bypassing software protection. If it became an issue, Microsoft COULD use something like that against people, but I doubt they ever will.

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or they can fry your motherboard i can replace efuses what about a fried motherboard it just becomes useless at that point
You ****ing crack me up. If you seriously found a low-cost way to replace the efuse array, then you have just become god in the xbox hacking community. All hail the person who let people turn their 360s into devkits.

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