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*claims 290x always out-performs 970*
*links thread with benchmarks that show 970 out-performing 8GB 290x at 4k*
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*links thread with benchmarks that show 970 out-performing 8GB 290x at 4k*
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Its not being fanboy when the AMD card is better.*sigh* I'm done. You're uneducated, and an AMD fan boy. It's that simple. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time.
It's not better.Its not being fanboy when the AMD card is better.
You still have yet to show one single bench of GTA V (Nvidia optimized game) where the 970 is better than the 290X on the GTA drivers. You show me charts from unknown review and won't link me the source that shows old drivers. I used benchmarks from known popular benchmarking sites showing the 290X won.
If the 970 was even close to the 290X it would win in the Nvidia optimized game.
Show me one benchmark of the 15.4 drivers and the 290X losing to the 970.It's not better.
How come you're so sure on the cards that aren't even released yet?Show me one benchmark of the 15.4 drivers and the 290X losing to the 970.
If the 970 cannot even win on the Nvidia game its way worse performance, more espensive and also has crap GPU scaling.
I provided benchmarks to prove it. He linked benchmarks from unknown review sites and won't list the source.
If the drivers are not using 15.4 it means its not the game ready driver for AMD so there is no GTA profile which is obvious because all other benches show the 290X destroying the 970 when both cards use game ready drivers.
Its easy to get your channel funded by Nvidia if you rig benchmarks by using old AMD drivers its a known old method and even done by popular utubers like LinusTechTips (who is well known for spreading misinformation on many issues as well)
$270 for the Sapphire Tri-X 290X (far superior to the reference 290X and better than any 970)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003612sr
Single cards = Titan X > 980 > 8GB 290X > 4GB 290X > 970 = 290
Dual Cards high res = Titan X > 8GB 290X > 980 > 4gb 290X > 780 ti > 970
Price performance ratio on the 8gb 290X is insane.
Future Single cards 390X > Titan X > 980 Ti > 980 > 290
but the 980 TI will be better than Titan due to price.
How come you're so sure on the cards that aren't even released yet?
$700 for a single card. Pathetic really. Again... I'd rather go SLI, it's cheaper. Price/performance etc.We know the specs of the 980 TI & 390X on everything other than clock speeds. The Titan X core will be similar power to the 390X however having half the bandwidth is going to be a huge factor.
The 980 Ti is the same board as a Titan X but its going to have different memory configuration. It will be about $700-750 suggested retail price.
We know the specs of the cards and we have seen 1.2 architecture from AMD. Similar to how we new the 980 performance after we had the specs.
Look at the old rumor articles about estimating the 980 performance after specs leaks the 980 was within 1% performance of the guesses. The 970 under performed based on specs but that was because we had the wrong specs (nvidia lied)
SLI 970 cost about 700 (if you get good coolers) and dual cards run into a lot of problems on Nvidia and AMD (Crossfire is a bit better than SLI with lower latency but both are riddled with issues).$700 for a single card. Pathetic really. Again... I'd rather go SLI, it's cheaper. Price/performance etc.
"unknown sites" lol, get out. Just because you look up AMD fan boy benchmarks doesn't make every other legitimate site "unknown". You clearly have terrible eyesight and I'm genuinely concerned for you because the benchmarks on your own thread show the 970 out-performing the 8GB 290x at 4k. P.S. Yes, a single GTX 970 will easily perform the same, and even better than a single 980 in some cases. Reference 980 vs aftermarket 970-970 wins at either stock speeds, or a light overclock. Single 970 with a little bit of overclocking will perform as well as a single 980 at stock speeds. This scales fairly well in SLI, so 3-way SLI 980 vs 3-way SLI 970, the 970 is still very close in performance, especially at lower resolutions but still to an extent at higher resolutions. $270 after rebates is not $270. It's a $290 card. We know leaked info about 300 series and 980Ti but nothing has been confirmed. Remember when we had leaks for 970 and that turned out to have the bulls*** with the VRAM? You're literally contradicting yourself in the same sentence. Smfh. Specs don't prove anything though, real world benchmarks will. You have literally no idea how unreleased cards are actually going to perform in game so don't pretend like you do.
Who cares about micro-stuttering? And who cares about windowed mode? That would be silly anyway. If you didn't get better performance then there's no point in going SLI. Of course you do.SLI 970 cost about 700 (if you get good coolers) and dual cards run into a lot of problems on Nvidia and AMD (Crossfire is a bit better than SLI with lower latency but both are riddled with issues).
The 980 TI and 390X are basically flag ship cards the top of the line consumers will actually be able to buy. Both will give performance similar to a 295x2 but on a single card.
You don't get better performance on SLI/CF than you do with a higher end single card.
Not every game even has SLI/CF support either and even many that do run into issues.
Dual cards introduces more latency and you get issues like micro-stuttering, compatibility issues, windowed mode (try running games on border-less window and lose 25% FPS)
Those benches I linked comparing the 970 to 290X were not 4k benchmarks that was a separate thread and comparing CF to SLI in which case CF 290X beat CF 980's.
And the 970 is not close to the 980 unless your running games at 1080p with no AA and no advanced settings.
Specs affect the benchmarks we already know about how good performance to expect for the 390X and we know pretty much perfect on how the 980 ti will do.
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If you don't know how good the cards will do you don't follow news on the cards we know for a fact the 980 ti is based on the same board as the Titan and we know its 6gb vram its a cut Titan X for cheaper.
We know the 390X is going to be based off 1.2 architecture which was shown with the 285 and we know all of the specs of the card other than clock speeds.
Have you ever used a CF/SLI machine?Who cares about micro-stuttering? And who cares about windowed mode? That would be silly anyway. If you didn't get better performance then there's no point in going SLI. Of course you do.
"If you don't know how good the cards will do you don't follow news on the cards"
No, that's not what it means. It means I'm a realist and I pay no attention to leaks, but since you're so adamant leaks are always correct, I have one for you. I hear they're going to release a GTX 985Ti and it's going to have 24GB VRAM, but it's going to be a triple chip GPU. Does that mean that's going to happen just because I've ****ing said it? No, it doesn't. Stop being such an uneducated fan boy.
Still not worth the extra cost for a bit of clock speed and performance increase. It would be better to go SLI on the 970 card rather than purchasing a single 980 when a 970 OC'd matches a factory clock speed of the 980 as you say. FYI: It doesn't stomp the 970 OC really.The 970 oc may beat a stock 980 but overclock a 980 it stomps the 970 oc.
Still not worth the extra cost for a bit of clock speed and performance increase. It would be better to go SLI on the 970 card rather than purchasing a single 980 when a 970 OC'd matches a factory clock speed of the 980 as you say. FYI: It doesn't stomp the 970 OC really.
Yes but I was talking about 980s not TIs.SLI 970 is being replaced by a single 980 TI.
CF 290X is being replaced by a single 390X.
Single cards getting similar FPS to CF rigs are always better if you want a smoothing game experience rather than saying I get 3 higher FPS but worse experience.
Well I agree the 980 isn't cost effective card but its still stronger than the 970 by a decent amountYes but I was talking about 980s not TIs.
Not if it's OC'd.Well I agree the 980 isn't cost effective card but its still stronger than the 970 by a decent amount
On single reference cards the 980 @ 1080p is about 10-15% performance over a 970 and about 5-10% over a 290X. The 290X has the best improvements on aftermarket models (The Tri-X/VaporX) but the 980 is still the best single card excluding stupidly priced cards (Titan X).
Because the 980 is the best its allowed to charge more I think its **** price performance ratio and wouldn't buy it but its designed this way for a reason.
The 980 OC gets good performance as well.Not if it's OC'd.