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Hey everyone. I'm having some trouble with this. Just made 2 backups of the same game and both have a framerate issue. So I ran Kprobe on both of them and here are the results:

PI Max : 1408
PI Average : 492.60
PI Total : 15438464
PIF Max : 35
PIF Average : 10.16
PIF Total : 318482

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PI Max : 1386
PI Average : 491.60
PI Total : 15406487
PIF Max : 37
PIF Average : 9.04
PIF Total : 283287

I'm getting TERRIBLE quality burns even though I am using an iHas with BurnerMax, using Verbatim discs (MKM-001), followed all the steps of this guide and my abgx is set to AutoFix 3. everything except for ImgBurn was stopped before burning. Any ideas why this is so bad? Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Post the imgburn log for the burns you made, so we can see how all your setting are. Trust me bro, I have been there with the sky high PI and terrible results. I went through around $30 worth of verbatims before getting my first quality burn, which isnt awesome, but is within the guidlines. Still have to do some tweaking of settings to help the kprobe2 results, but in due time.
Almost forgot...@Nitro EH , hopefully Im not stepping on any toes. Just trying to help :wink:
 
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I checked the logs folder and it is empty. Advanced SystemCare must have deleted them as part of a sweep. If I screenshot my settings would that be helpful?
 
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If you followed all the steps in this guide, and have the settings set like he suggested, then the only thing i can tell you is how i finally got decent results. I had better luck turning overspeed on and writing mk001 at 4x instead of 2.4x. Dont know what, but it helped.
 
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If you followed all the steps in this guide, and have the settings set like he suggested, then the only thing i can tell you is how i finally got decent results. I had better luck turning overspeed on and writing mk001 at 4x instead of 2.4x. Dont know what, but it helped.

I got a good burn now.

PI Max : 15
PI Average : 1.28
PI Total : 35962
PIF Max : 2
PIF Average : 0.13
PIF Total : 3543

Turned on Overspeed, enabled "Perform OPC before Write", and burned mkm-001 disc at 4x. Thanks for the guidance Bigbones87. You gave me a great place to start lookin and these results are perfect!
 
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I got a good burn now.

PI Max : 15
PI Average : 1.28
PI Total : 35962
PIF Max : 2
PIF Average : 0.13
PIF Total : 3543

Turned on Overspeed, enabled "Perform OPC before Write", and burned mkm-001 disc at 4x. Thanks for the guidance Bigbones87. You gave me a great place to start lookin and these results are perfect!
Your welcome. Glad I could help and too see you got it working :smile: Haven't tried turning perform OPC before write on, so I will and see if it makes my results any better. You may have returned the favor. :wink:
 
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Hey guys, guess I need some help... =P

PI Max: 64
PI Average: 5,35
PI Total: 167606
PIF Max: 8
PIF Average: 0,63
PIF Total: 19678

Ok... My burner is an iHas 122 (ZL0F) successfully crossflashed to 124b (AL0S), and the DVDs are Verbatim MKM-003.
On EEPROM Utility, Smartburn and Force Hyper Tuning are checked, and the rest unchecked. On Imgburn, the same options are checked, also Perform OPC Before Write is unchecked. Buffer size is set to 512MB, and what else... Oh, 4x write speed. The last burn before this one got me PI spikes of ~100 and a total of 224k. I was looking around and someone said somewhere that it is possible to get lower PI/PIF values on the next burns (something about OPC history).

But well... Is there something I can do that will definitely get me better results next time? Like trying to set write speed to 2,4x instead of 4x? Also, enabling Online Hyper Tuning got me real bad results the time I tried it...

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Well first thing I notice, you should always use kprobe at 4x read speed. That will give the most realistic numbers of your burn quality. Your speed says max, so that may effect the results. Secondly, your pi score isn't awful. The average is high, but the max is ok. The PIF isn't good though. Always clear the OPc history before burning. You wouldn't happen to have the imgburn log would you? That way we can see exactly how the setting are.
 
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Gonna try running another scan at 4x right now.
Yes, I have the logs. Wanna see the log of the last burn or the three last ones?

EDIT: Because the log is a bit long...
 
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Just the imgburn logs of the burn above would be good. Then we can see exactly how your settings are. Did you have burn safe on or off, and things like that. I haven't used mk003 so I can't truely speak from experience, but I read that a lot of people get better results burning mkm003 at 2.4x and burning mkm001 at 4x overspeed. I have mkm001 and burn at 4x and I got great results, unlike burning at 2.4x which were just devestating.
 
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EDIT: Because the log is a bit long...
Just give us the beginning where it tells you all the settings and what discs and speed. Once it actually starts the burn, we don't need those logs.
 
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Just give us the beginning where it tells you all the settings and what discs and speed. Once it actually starts the burn, we don't need those logs.
Allright.

I 17:46:13 Operation Started!
I 17:46:13 Source File: C:\Users\Gussa\Desktop\Assassins.Creed.III.XBOX360-COMPLEX\DVD2\complex-asscreed3_2.dvd
I 17:46:13 Source File Sectors: 4.267.015 (MODE1/2048)
I 17:46:13 Source File Size: 8.738.846.720 bytes
I 17:46:13 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM
I 17:46:13 Source File Volume Set Identifier: e2254000MS UDFBridge
I 17:46:13 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)
I 17:46:13 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF
I 17:46:13 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; UDF (1.50)
I 17:46:13 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI iHAS124 B AL0S (F:smile: (SATA)
I 17:46:13 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00)
I 17:46:13 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2,4x; 4x; 6x; 8x
I 17:46:13 Destination Media Sectors: 4.267.040
I 17:46:13 Write Mode: DVD
I 17:46:13 Write Type: DAO
I 17:46:14 Write Speed: 4x
I 17:46:14 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: No
I 17:46:14 Link Size: Auto
I 17:46:14 Lock Volume: Yes
I 17:46:14 Test Mode: No
I 17:46:14 OPC: No
I 17:46:14 BURN-Proof: Disabled
I 17:46:14 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5.540 KB/s (4x)
I 17:46:14 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 17:46:14 Advanced Settings - Force HT: Yes, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes
I 17:46:14 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2.133.520
I 17:46:14 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
I 17:46:14 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!
I 17:46:14 Filling Buffer... (512 MB)
I 17:46:16 Writing LeadIn...
 
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Ok, checked again:

3rdburn2ndcheck.png


The max values are about the same, but the averages and totals dropped a bit.
 
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Well seeing the logs I would say, you need to check "perform OPc before write" since you are using mkm003 discs. Also make sure you clear OPc before writing a disc each time. The rest of the settings look good to me, so if doing what I said doesn't work than you could try writing at 2.4x and see if that helps, or you can wait and see if someone else can lend some advice since I'm not too knowledgable with mkm003 discs.
 
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Well seeing the logs I would say, you need to check "perform OPc before write" since you are using mkm003 discs. Also make sure you clear OPc before writing a disc each time. The rest of the settings look good to me, so if doing what I said doesn't work than you could try writing at 2.4x and see if that helps, or you can wait and see if someone else can lend some advice since I'm not too knowledgable with mkm003 discs.
I was doing this on my first burns and got worse results, with PI avg of 5,5+ and PIF avg of 0,8+. I don't think it could get me any better... On the other hand, I could try lowering burn speed to 2,4x. Will try it soon.
 
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I was doing this on my first burns and got worse results, with PI avg of 5,5+ and PIF avg of 0,8+. I don't think it could get me any better... On the other hand, I could try lowering burn speed to 2,4x. Will try it soon.
If 2.4 doesn't help, try playing with hyper tuning, overspeed, and smart burn (ie, try with them all off)
 
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k goina try 2.4
my pi max @740 avg @183 < playable
PIF max =28, avg 1.7 total =55100
with HFT and over speed

every thing on in settings every thing went a bit higher and did't play

and the settings from here are in the middle

mkm003
with ihas 124 rev d with payload @ 4x
burning off 3TB usb hdd worked better??

Xp pc specs
overclocked 3100+ 2.5 ghz amd
1GB ddr ram
80 gig sata
on broad gefrooce 6100gfx

im i missing any thing

any help
 
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Post the beggining of the imgburn log that tells us all the setting and write speed, all the way down to where it says writing leadin. It is better for us to actually see all the settings, then we can try to suggest some things to try.
Nitro EH Nitro EH maybe you should add that to the op, like post beggining of imgburn logs and kprobe results. Just an idea.
 
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Just try playing with the settings. I know it can be frustrating and a waste of discs but there's not much of an alternative.Some people have used 20+discs before being able to find satisfying results.
Post the beggining of the imgburn log that tells us all the setting and write speed, all the way down to where it says writing leadin. It is better for us to actually see all the settings, then we can try to suggest some things to try.
Nitro EH Nitro EH maybe you should add that to the op, like post beggining of imgburn logs and kprobe results. Just an idea.
It's a good idea if it was easy to help people get good burn results on their first try using different settings. But unfortunately it can vary greatly for people and so it is difficult. It would just be easier for people to follow my tips and tricks in the op and trying all the settings or else the same questions will be repeatably asked and answered.
But ill add if people are still having troubles after trying multiple times to list all the settings they have used and so more options can be offered.
oh and thanks for helping
 
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i just got a slim flashed,
when i put games in the try, its say play game, then goes black and kick me back to dashboard.

here are results of kprobe [spoil]Date : 4/10/2013 6:47:02 PM
Model : 0-0-0-0 I:ATAPI iHAS124 D 8L0A
Disc : DVD+R DL , MKM003 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation]
Speed : 4x
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1
Scanned range : 0 - 1240393
Sampling count : 72613
Errors : 0
PI Max : 24
PI Average : 4.70
PI Total : 42748
PIF Max : 2
PIF Average : 0.02
PIF Total : 152 [/SPOILER][/spoil]

here is imgburn reports[spoil] I 13:01:34 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started!
I 13:01:34 Microsoft Windows 8 Unknown Edition (0x00000067) (6.2, Build 9200)
I 13:01:34 Total Physical Memory: 2,545,516 KB - Available: 1,054,620 KB
W 13:01:34 Drive E:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.
I 13:01:35 Initialising SPTI...
I 13:01:35 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 13:01:36 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI iHAS124 D 8L0A (H (USB)
I 13:01:44 -> Drive 2 - Info: hp DVDRAM GT31L MR52 (F (SATA)
I 13:01:44 Found 2 DVDRW/RAMs!
I 13:05:11 Operation Started!
I 13:05:11 Source File: C:\Users\jesse\Desktop\Xbox Games\XboxPirate.eu\Defiance\sp-defiance-XboxPirate.dvd
I 13:05:11 Source File Sectors: 4,267,015 (MODE1/2048)
I 13:05:11 Source File Size: 8,738,846,720 bytes
I 13:05:11 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM
I 13:05:11 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 62b7c000MS UDFBridge
I 13:05:11 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)
I 13:05:11 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF
I 13:05:11 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)
I 13:05:11 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI iHAS124 D 8L0A (H (USB)
I 13:05:11 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00)
I 13:05:11 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x
I 13:05:11 Destination Media Sectors: 4,267,040
I 13:05:11 Write Mode: DVD
I 13:05:11 Write Type: DAO
I 13:05:11 Write Speed: 4x
I 13:05:11 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: No
I 13:05:11 Link Size: Auto
I 13:05:11 Lock Volume: Yes
I 13:05:11 Test Mode: No
I 13:05:11 OPC: Yes
I 13:05:11 BURN-Proof: Disabled
I 13:05:11 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x)
I 13:05:11 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 13:05:11 Advanced Settings - Force HT: Yes, Online HT: Yes, OverSpeed: Yes, SmartBurn: Yes
I 13:05:38 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,133,520
I 13:05:38 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
I 13:05:38 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!
I 13:05:40 Filling Buffer... (512 MB)
I 13:05:52 Writing LeadIn...
I 13:05:54 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014)
I 13:05:54 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014)
I 13:05:54 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2133519)
I 13:18:59 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2133520 - 4267014)[/SPOILER][/spoil]

all help would be much appreciated. i have tryed diffrent games, and same effect. thanks


when i explorer disc i see video_ts audio_ts and xex
when i put in computer, it goes to xbox logo and says put disc in xbox
 
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