sorry but your just an idiot this is why people hate apple fanboys so much they chat so much crap and come of as being so dumb
Somewhat ironic. Windows is a fine operating system and all, but I prefer Macs simply because they're better for the design work that I do, granted if you have a good enough graphics card on any computer it'd work fine. The Mac OS just seems more intuitive and user-friendly. I've never really been one to customize every portion of the UI, so that doesn't really draw me back to Windows either.
Computer rot is such a ****ing joke. Take care of your machine and you won't get "computer rot". It's just another dumb ****ing marketing ploy in order to have people pay more money to service their machines, and then eventually get so fed up that all they want to do is make the switch to whatever new operating system comes out next. It's all ****ing corporate bulls***. I've worked with PC's all of my life and I've never had issues with this "computer rot". If you clean up your machine, be careful with what you download and install, it all becomes a great user experience. On the other hand, I've also worked with tons of Macs using OSX all around my school district and MOST of them are **** slower then the PCs I work with as well. Want to know why? Because dumb ****ing kids download tons of video clips and install tons of ****, go to websites that build up tons of cache like addictinggames.com, and then the computers never get serviced until the end of the year, so that entire year, all of the kids and teachers are b****ing at the tech support saying "the computers are all so slow! whaaaaa!!". Then the board blames it on us, even though they never hired us more then one time out of the entire school year to clean up and service all of the machines. I have heard all this dumb **** before. Nothing new. Out of all the arguments between PCs versus Macs, "computer rot" is the dumbest ****ing one out there. Sorry guys, pick something else to argue about.
Each has its own advantages. Not going into depth because I will end writing a couple paragraphs, but I think you know what I mean.
Then what was the point of even posting? Go in to depth. We want to know your feelings on this very serious matter.
I'm not going to pay 3000 dollars to not even be able to play battlefield or a decent game. I'd buy a 400 computer to surf the web. Not some overpriced piece of ****.
Comparing Macs to PCs is quite honestly idiotic. They are two completely different worlds and any intelligent debate between the two would have to look at it from several aspects. Breaking it into hardware and software would probably be the easiest way to argue them if you had to. Hardware wise, you can easily build a common PC with higher performing components for about the same amount of money if not less. However, the software aspect of the Mac (OSX) is tuned to specifically work with certain hardware which increases its performance abilities. In another aspect, its Windows counterpart will probably always have more of a user base, which makes it have a larger amount of gaming and software potential. Ability wise, each software can perform the same tasks it's just a matter of how much work it requires to do that task. The only true argument to whether Macs or "PCs" (I use quotes because of the redundancy of that word) is opinion. Only you can decide which one you like better based on your own personal opinions. Trying to convince one person otherwise would be idiotic to do. So if you truly want to know whether you want a PC or a Mac, then simply try them out for yourselves.
Nice post But I disagree with some points. I don't see how you can think PC/Mac are different worlds there not that is like saying iphone is different world to samsung android phones so they can't be compared which they always are. What a person likes is an opion but using facts you can compare the two easily in all different departments.
If you had been aware of that you wouldn't be a brainless idiot. Just sayin. Everyone in this thread is fucking retarded, with the exception of Phelix's spur of sanity in his last post. Macs are PCs. If you want to compare the hardware, that's fucking retarded because Macs are literally just a brand of x86_64 based personal computers. When Apple used PowerPC, that argument would have had some merit because they were a different processor architecture, but now, there's no difference between a Mac and a comparable computer from a different company (or custom-built), besides Macs having an apple slapped on them. As far as software is concerned, OS X is superior, being a *nix OS, but the default level of abstraction sickens me. Linux is superior to it though. TL;DR: You're all fucking retarded.
Respectively, going by paragraph: No. No. No. No. Again, respectively: That's not a technical term by a long shot, but I'm assuming that you're referring to the performance decay over time. In which case, OS X is definitely guilty, though probably not to the degree of Windows. I cannot effectively judge on user-friendliness. No idea what Spotlight is at all. No. No. No. All Apple does is steal ideas and bring them to the public's attention. Ubuntu One came about 2 years before iCloud, there have been touch-screen tablets since the early 21st century, and there have been teleconferencing protocols since the late 90s. Moving on to Mountain Lion, literally all of these new features were in Gnome 5 or so years ago. The only exception being the shared messages that can be viewed from a phone and the desktop at the same time, which Canonical introduced at about the same time with Ubuntu For Android. How is that a pro? Compared to what? A safe? Wine doesn't require a dual boot. Yes. You forgot the step where you receive no support whatsoever. Design work? Oh, is Photoshop on OS X somehow better than Photoshop on Windows? Literally the only thing OS X has over Windows in anything related to art is Final Cut, and even that has very respectable alternatives on Windows. This guys speaks sense. Also, to actually state my opinion on the topic (Ignoring all the ignorance in this thread that I don't have the patience to correct, such as the redundancy Phelix briefly touched upon that stems from comparing a "PC" to a "Mac"): OS X is fundamentally a better operating system. The nature of its hardware, however, lets it down greatly. There's always the argument that having specific hardware allows for developers to create better drivers, but drivers should be the hardware dev's responsibility (IMO). Windows' MS-DOS background lets it down, but one cannot beat it for compatibility with hardware and sheer number of programs. Compare that to OS X's Darwin (Derived from BSD) background, there is no question that OS X is superior at that level. Moving up in system complexity, I have heard dozens of reports of memory leaks in OS X causing ridiculously high memory usage, especially when developing (I'm looking at you, XCode), and some other Apple "design choices" that cause problems (Such as a problem with their Window System that adds a ~30ms delay to mouse input, and a change with how 10.7 scrolls that caused numerous web-apps to become unusable). Windows, on the other hand, is just downright inefficient from the start. Aero consumes more memory than a Kansan consumes McDonalds, and applications are given inherently less resources to work off of. (Ex: Canvas Rider in Chrome on an OS X 10.6 VM runs better than the same game, on the same browser, run natively on Windows) For security, both suck. OS X had an exploit where the battery could be remotely detonated (Effectively) and Windows is... well... Windows. There is and has been a vulnerability that could DoS a Windows box indefinitely just by running a script on the same network as it. This vulnerability has been known for over a year, yet Microsoft refuses to patch it. Software-wise, nothing compares to Windows in terms of sheer amount of applications to choose from. OS X has plenty of exclusive programs that might be somewhat enticing, such as Final Cut or Garageband (Though they have respectable alternatives on Windows), but it still pales in comparison to Windows. Developing for OS X is also more difficult, due to the simplicity of .NET and Visual Studios. Games on OS X is lacking, but that's more due to a FUD campaign that Microsoft ran against OpenGL in the early 2000s and more widely available documentation. OpenGL is actually a much more capable library than Direct3D (And runs on damn-near every platform), it's just not as widely adopted. That being said, Linux/FreeBSD is miles superior to either. All the benefits of *Nix without the drag of abstraction (As TigerBlood touched upon) and hardware restriction. The fact that they're open source and infinitely customizable is just icing on the cake.
It is primarily for Final Cut Pro. Honestly it's posts like yours that make me hate every single Mac/Windows thread.
Then stay out of them. You're not being forced to read through them. I'm doing nothing but stating my opinion, much like you.
None is better than the other. Which one you like more just depends on your use and preference. I had a Window's laptop which messed up. I now bought a Mac. I loved my Window's when I had it, and now I love my Mac that I have. But I do wish I had the features, programs, and options I only had on Windows. On the other hand now my Mac has features I wish I had when I had my Windows. It just depends on the what you need it for. For example, I miss being able to download anything and everything -even if it had a virus - over not being able to download a lot of things. I miss running .exe's that will let me download Youtube videos, the free games, themes, options, and the simplicity of it. But now at least there less chance of me damaging my computer with a virus, more installed features, etc. There's always pro's and con's to something, this is not different. So I fixed my problem by getting a new Window's laptop(hopefully) soon.
Computer rot is BS. Just Defrag/CCleaner every few months. b**** please, W7 was designed by the users. There are multiple programs that do the exact same as Spotlight (e.g. Launchyy, Executor etc.). http://www.liveside.net/2010/11/16/windows-7-windows-live-to-the-cloud/ <- Posted November 2010. iCloud was ANNOUNCED in June of 2011. iPad == iPod. Facetime == Skype etc. Microsoft pretty much only makes Windows, Windows Phone and the Xbox/360. Xbox 360 + Windows 7 is way ****ing better than all of crApple products combined. So are other laptops? Also for those saying Macs look better: http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/chassis/colossus/ And if you Google around you can find some epic case mods. Why? For telling the truth? Wheen is probably (if not) the most knowledgeable person (that I've seen) on the subject of computers. inb4kissass
1. KISS( keep it simple stupid) most people dont want to defrag ever so often.. 2. No reason to cuss lol. Windows 7 was my idea. haha I just think that whole thing is funny and marketing stuff. 3. Point is....it's integrated. 4. iCloud is just a new version of, with a little bit more of bells and whistles, MobileMe. Which I believe was re-announced in 2008, but the whole saying of "Cloud" is just some marketing talk. Most people that say ipad is just an overly sized ipod has not gone in-depth of what it is actually used for. My father uses an ipad1 3g for his business, because he does a lot of driving around. What you said about the whole facetime and skype thing was just stupid lol. etc. - End of Thinking Capacity. 5. What you said there was ignorant. 6. Seems like you had nothing to say, so you just said that lol. 7. Most people just like that clean finish look. Now I am not backing up Mac, Nor windows, heck nor Linux. I use all three in some way. Macs for my school/web/overlooking server stuff. Windows for gaming/ and just some other little stuff/ Linux for all my server stuff. Go CENTOS! lol. Point is all you guys that are fighting back and forth on which one is better, are being ignorant, until you accept the fact that they are different in their own way, you are just being plain'n'simple dumb. Those are my thoughts! thanks for reading
Fine, OSX still gets this "rot" bulls*** if you download crap a lot Yeah I don't see how you argued my point So is the Windows Search feature? Plus with that, you can choose which files you want to Index, and it works extremely effectively You said Apple is ahead of the game because of iCloud. It's not only NOT ahead of the game, but it's a few years late. There are many superior alternatives to the iPad, and iPad wasn't first, Apple just have a lot of brainless followers. But that's beside the point, I don't see how iPad benefits Macs. Apple didn't invent "facetime", there are many other programs BEFORE facetime that did exactly the same thing -- such as Skype. Apple steals/copies ideas from other companies. Maybe so, but it's the same with every company. Owning multiple products of the same company will obviously enhance the products. Microsoft and Apple being two great examples I don't see how it's a pro, when you can do it on most other laptops? Doesn't matter, my opinion is far superior to yours, and everyone elses. I'm not hating on Apple (except with that crApple comment but that's just for fun), I'm just saying that what most people see as "pro's" towards Mac's are just bulls***.
1. but deleting stuff on macintosh computers is a lot more easier then on windows computers. thus less chance of rot. 2. the fans of each company put there 2 sense into the next product, and the companies, well the smart ones, listen. 3. both of them work flawlessly. 4. I NEVER said it was ahead of the game. You are rewording stuff I am saying to make your argument look the way you want it, because that is the only way you see it. I never said iPad was the first, again you rewording things. Thats your thought on "brainless". Never said it was the first, but they wanted to recreate it, to work for there products flawlessly, so also they can integrate. I but it would of cost a whole lot more to get the licensing to integrate Skype. Stealing? once something is created does not every company want to create it in their own way? hmmm... 6. The pro is just a name dude. 7. Your just being a lil ignorant aren't you? Superior? Seems like you are knit picking about this whole pro thing. thanks for reading
Not really Either way, both are very user friendly Aight Just realised you're not the dude who I originally quoted (he said that). My mistake I wasn't talking about the MBP, I was talking about pro's and con's thing That last one was a joke, obviously everyone has a different taste in design
