T-Mobile + iPhone 3G

[SiK GambleR]

it hasn't been unlocked yet.

[Abolfazl]

I currently have a T-Mobile Dash [HTC Excalibur] but i want to get an iphone 3g.
1) Would it be worth it to get an iphone and unlock it?
2) If i currently have the full internet plan with tmobile would it work on the iphone?
3) Is there a (free) unlock for the 3G that is public?


Thx in advance

[Abolfazl]

Quote: Originally Posted by SiK GambleR

it hasn't been unlocked yet.

Wtf... 7Sins says that you posted that post at 7:16.. 6 minutes before I even posted the thread?

Anyways.. anyone have an answer to my other questions?

[gillilandboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Abolfazl

I currently have a T-Mobile Dash [HTC Excalibur] but i want to get an iphone 3g.
1) Would it be worth it to get an iphone and unlock it?
2) If i currently have the full internet plan with tmobile would it work on the iphone?
3) Is there a (free) unlock for the 3G that is public?


Thx in advance

Well your going to have to pay a lot of money because they make you activate the iPhone in store.

1. What I would do would look on eBay because I know they are selling them unlocked in some other countries .

2. Yes.

3. Not yet. Should be in about a week.

[T Sizzles]

It's useless to get an iPhone 3G if you're going to use T-Mobile. Might as well get a 2G one. Because T-Mobile uses the 1700mhz 3G band while AT&T uses the NAM 850/1900mhz band, which is in the iPhone 3G.

[Abolfazl]

Quote: Originally Posted by gillilandboy

Well your going to have to pay a lot of money because they make you activate the iPhone in store.

1. What I would do would look on eBay because I know they are selling them unlocked in some other countries .

2. Yes.

3. Not yet. Should be in about a week.

So people who do not have AT&T cannot buy it?

Quote: Originally Posted by T Sizzles

It's useless to get an iPhone 3G if you're going to use T-Mobile. Might as well get a 2G one. Because T-Mobile uses the 1700mhz 3G band while AT&T uses the NAM 850/1900mhz band, which is in the iPhone 3G.

The 3G is known for more than its internet. It is cheaper, sleeker, etc

[T Sizzles]

Not cheaper. They're $800+ on eBay.
And it's $600 for one from AT&T without a commitment, but you have to have a line of service. If you buy one for $200, you have to pay the first month's bill and an ETF to cancel it. 2G ones are going way cheaper on eBay.

They both have the same dimensions. The 3G just has a restyled rear panel.

[default]

actually with the 3G launching in seattle on OCT 1 it will be operating on the 1900mhz band. (same as ATT)

and although we can't check yet (bootneuter not available yet) i think that the iphone has the ability to work on all GSM frequencies, seeing as how it was released in 200 countries, and the US is the ONLY coutry that uses the 850/1900 band...

we will see come monday or tuesday (hopefully..) when pwnage tool 2.0 is released

[T Sizzles]

Quote: Originally Posted by default

actually with the 3G launching in seattle on OCT 1 it will be operating on the 1900mhz band. (same as ATT)

Wrong.

T-Mobile uses the AWS band which uses the 1700mhz/2100mhz bands for 3G. The 2100mhz band they use IS NOT the 2100mhz band used in Europe and Asia. They aren't using the 1900mhz band or 850mhz band for 3G at all. Their GSM is on the 1900mhz band.

If you want a 3G T-Mobile phone you have to get it from them.

Quote: Originally Posted by default

and although we can't check yet (bootneuter not available yet) i think that the iphone has the ability to work on all GSM frequencies, seeing as how it was released in 200 countries, and the US is the ONLY coutry that uses the 850/1900 band...

Wrong again. Overseas all 3G is on the 2100mhz Euro/Asian band. 850 and 1900mhz is used for 3G in the US, Canada, Australia.

[Abolfazl]

I do not know what a "band" is...

In simple terms.. please.. what is the easiest way to get an iphone 3G w/ no contract

[T Sizzles]

Ebay is easiest, but you'll have to give up your firstborn for one.

A band is the operating frequency that the cell signal uses to link the tower and your phone.

[Abolfazl]

So more band = faster?

Quote: Originally Posted by T Sizzles

Ebay is easiest, but you'll have to give up your firstborn for one.
...

That seems a little steep. I'd sell my soul for it if i hadn't have already sold it to the Devil for 50 skill in Halo 3. Unfortunately... Lucifer found a loop hole and only gave me the skill. Sonuva***** made me earn the experience myself.

[default]

Quote: Originally Posted by T Sizzles

Wrong.

T-Mobile uses the AWS band which uses the 1700mhz/2100mhz bands for 3G. The 2100mhz band they use IS NOT the 2100mhz band used in Europe and Asia. They aren't using the 1900mhz band or 850mhz band for 3G at all. Their GSM is on the 1900mhz band.

If you want a 3G T-Mobile phone you have to get it from them.



Wrong again. Overseas all 3G is on the 2100mhz Euro/Asian band. 850 and 1900mhz is used for 3G in the US, Canada, Australia.

so they arent selling the same phone overseas? i was under the impression that it was the same hardware in every phone just a different kernal/bootloader allowing different sim chips. Wouldnt that mean that if i were to buy an iphone that was sold on a vodafone contract and unlock it i wouldnt be able to use it in the US?

[T Sizzles]

All iPhones are the same hardware wise. The software is different to support different locales and languages, and probably holds a software lock for the carrier it is sold with.

Quote: Originally Posted by Abolfazl

So more band = faster?




That seems a little steep. I'd sell my soul for it if i hadn't have already sold it to the Devil for 50 skill in Halo 3. Unfortunately... Lucifer found a loop hole and only gave me the skill. Sonuva***** made me earn the experience myself.

The number of bands have nothing to do with the data speed.