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Old 01-07-2008, 01:48 AM   #1
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This is why halo 3 modding takes a long time.

I'm afraid Micro$oft has evened the score with the modders. As you may or may not know, It is possible to mod Halo 3, but it is impossible to get the maps to load, as they are in a proprietary live container with a ***** of an encryption and some other security as well. I'm no expert, but here is how i sum it up.
The DLC maps off of halo 3 xbox live have 2 or more sets of encryption. The mapfile itself has to be signed, as well as the container of the mapfile. It is rumoured that someone does have the knowledge of how to resign them, but i highly doubt it.
Another reason why modding is so slow right now is because the 360 runs in an extremely secure environment. There is absolutely no way to softmod the 360 currently. A firmware hack is possible but you need a certain dvd drive. It's also a ***** to install! Modding is not at all popular now on xbox live. Back in the day, modding was like a new fashion trend because it was easy. Even I could softmod my xbox original using a softmod. It was so easy to mod, and Microsoft put a bad encryption on the maps (which was later cracked relatively fast...does Cool Map Resigner bring back any old memories ^_^?)
not to mention that the old xbox live service was extremely easy to fool. By coldbooting, one could slip past the mod-detection mechanism micro$oft had put in place and proceed into the game with modded hard drive contents. The banning system for xbox was lousy as well. From the time you logged on, you had six to eight full hours to wreak havok in matchmaking. If the account was banned, one just borrowed a 2 month and made a new one with ease. Now, we can't even mod in matchmaking for 3 minutes, if at all and as soon as modding is possible, Microsoft will patch it up like they did with Gears Of War. The modding scene looks grim now. We might not see any reall progress for one or two years...maybe more.
That sums it up. If you have anything you want to say, go ahead. I'm antomicblitz and I'm a modder. I used to mod in matchmaking back when it was cool.

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Old 01-07-2008, 01:56 AM   #2
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I'm afraid Micro$oft has evened the score with the modders. As you may or may not know, It is possible to mod Halo 3, but it is impossible to get the maps to load, as they are in a proprietary live container with a ***** of an encryption and some other security as well. I'm no expert, but here is how i sum it up.
The DLC maps off of halo 3 xbox live have 2 or more sets of encryption. The mapfile itself has to be signed, as well as the container of the mapfile. It is rumoured that someone does have the knowledge of how to resign them, but i highly doubt it.
Another reason why modding is so slow right now is because the 360 runs in an extremely secure environment. There is absolutely no way to softmod the 360 currently. A firmware hack is possible but you need a certain dvd drive. It's also a ***** to install! Modding is not at all popular now on xbox live. Back in the day, modding was like a new fashion trend because it was easy. Even I could softmod my xbox original using a softmod. It was so easy to mod, and Microsoft put a bad encryption on the maps (which was later cracked relatively fast...does Cool Map Resigner bring back any old memories ^_^?)
not to mention that the old xbox live service was extremely easy to fool. By coldbooting, one could slip past the mod-detection mechanism micro$oft had put in place and proceed into the game with modded hard drive contents. The banning system for xbox was lousy as well. From the time you logged on, you had six to eight full hours to wreak havok in matchmaking. If the account was banned, one just borrowed a 2 month and made a new one with ease. Now, we can't even mod in matchmaking for 3 minutes, if at all and as soon as modding is possible, Microsoft will patch it up like they did with Gears Of War. The modding scene looks grim now. We might not see any reall progress for one or two years...maybe more.
That sums it up. If you have anything you want to say, go ahead. I'm antomicblitz and I'm a modder. I used to mod in matchmaking back when it was cool.
You're a god... Thank you, Thank you so much. I owe you my life, maybe now people at this forum thinking Halo 3 is CURRENTLY modable will realize.
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Old 01-07-2008, 02:32 AM   #3
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A firmware hack is possible but you need a certain dvd drive
any drive would work

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It's also a ***** to install!
not really


and to the rest , u might be right
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Old 01-07-2008, 07:39 AM   #4
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You are aware that the maps load offline as long as they're resigned, and that they are just making sure they won't load online before they release it..

So to sum it up. This only affects you online modders. And any modder that knows how to do more than skin/projectile swap doesn't mod online.

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Old 01-07-2008, 09:31 AM   #5
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Quote: Originally Posted by XxMoNkEy42xX View Post
You are aware that the maps load offline as long as they're resigned, and that they are just making sure they won't load online before they release it..

So to sum it up. This only affects you online modders. And any modder that knows how to do more than skin/projectile swap doesn't mod online.
So people have got mods to work offline? Thats what I got from that first sentence.
If so, how come I haven't seen anything about it in the forums?
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Old 01-07-2008, 12:42 PM   #6
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So people have got mods to work offline? Thats what I got from that first sentence.
If so, how come I haven't seen anything about it in the forums?
You dont remember roofus getting the recon armor?
 
Old 01-09-2008, 06:54 PM   #7
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this all sounds legit enough, but if you post a video people would stop asking dumb questions.
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:27 PM   #8
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I didn't even know you could mod Offline
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:50 PM   #9
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Quote: Originally Posted by ForrrestMaster View Post
You dont remember roofus getting the recon armor?
That doesn't count.

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So people have got mods to work offline? Thats what I got from that first sentence.
If so, how come I haven't seen anything about it in the forums?
There's no knowledgeable modders on this forum..
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:06 AM   #10
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That doesn't count.



There's no knowledgeable modders on this forum..
so zone117 is not knowledgeable before you say that there is not a smart modders ask people why they want to mod halo 3 wait about a yaer or a few months before you mod this game there are still some new features(aka glitches) to discover so wait when antman and roofus release the codes to resign the maps and containers
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:13 AM   #11
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so zone117 is not knowledgeable before you say that there is not a smart modders ask people why they want to mod halo 3 wait about a yaer or a few months before you mod this game there are still some new features(aka glitches) to discover so wait when antman and roofus release the codes to resign the maps and containers
Zone is not an active part of this site anymore. He went to Halomods and has stayed there.
 
Old 01-15-2008, 09:40 PM   #12
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Zone is not an active part of this site anymore. He went to Halomods and has stayed there.
no duh because of people who don't do any thing and all they want to do is mod to cheat listen if you want to mod halo 3 so much crack the code your self and get banned from xbox live you noob
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:44 PM   #13
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I'm no expert,
Thats probably where you should have left off....
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:09 PM   #14
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****ing a y dont u use xlink to play h3 then u can mod and play live using that i think the most i ever saw online play h3 wiht me on xlink is like 4 ppl so spread the word just use xlink
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:14 PM   #15
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****ing a y dont u use xlink to play h3 then u can mod and play live using that i think the most i ever saw online play h3 wiht me on xlink is like 4 ppl so spread the word just use xlink
It's kinda hard to play modded H3 maps on xlink when you cant resign the maps...
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It's kinda hard to play modded H3 maps on xlink when you cant resign the maps...
LOL.

This kid has nothing to say, just a bunch of jumbled words...
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Old 01-16-2008, 11:16 PM   #17
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Quote: Originally Posted by luigi90210 View Post
so zone117 is not knowledgeable before you say that there is not a smart modders ask people why they want to mod halo 3 wait about a yaer or a few months before you mod this game there are still some new features(aka glitches) to discover so wait when antman and roofus release the codes to resign the maps and containers

what proof do you have that they have any sort of code or ability to resign the maps, roofus could of been handed the armor by bungie. as a reward for doing something stupid but funny or any other reasons. untill they can show me proof themselves I will not believe that the can resign a map.
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Old 01-17-2008, 11:46 AM   #18
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no duh because of people who don't do any thing and all they want to do is mod to cheat listen if you want to mod halo 3 so much crack the code your self and get banned from xbox live you noob
You are retarded. Who said I wanted to mod? You are a dumbass. I used to mod for fun and was almost on Remapped. Me and Zone used to talk alot too. So you have NO idea. You and your 2 post. Idiot.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by GoldBl4d3 View Post
what proof do you have that they have any sort of code or ability to resign the maps, roofus could of been handed the armor by bungie. as a reward for doing something stupid but funny or any other reasons. untill they can show me proof themselves I will not believe that the can resign a map.
Roofus has made a resigner program that will sign any CON files, such as gametypes, gamesaves, profiles, config files. etc. thats why the first mod was just a simple 0 second respawn mod. the keypair needed to resign LIVE container files is probably stored in a vault at MS

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Old 01-17-2008, 11:59 AM   #20
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GoldBlade.... Roofus has a resigner of sorts.....he hacked his own deal and unlocked the armor offline for himself... Bungie only gives out recon armor, it doesnt give out the bungie armor, which had unlocked. Proof right there lol

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