The Whole Outlook on Map Modding

[Vampire]

well i was thinking more of like 1000 if not 10000 computer Avg running non stop over a years time might do it
nothing soon but it not too far out there
i said i has an ideer so i know this would never happen but like everyone else here i'm just saying in theory it can be done
maybe if we got the whole school of MIT to work on it lol

[anti087]

what if we made a program that connected all our computers together that would help crack it so think instead of just one comp trying to do it think 50,000 well probly lless computer but better then one

[Vampire]

Quote: Originally Posted by anti087

what if we made a program that connected all our computers together that would help crack it so think instead of just one comp trying to do it think 50,000 well probly lless computer but better then one

that was what i was saying get everyone and they're botnet
btw look at this Schneier on Security: Kaspersky Labs Trying to Crack 1024-bit RSA

We estimate it would take around 15 million modern computers, running for about a year, to crack such a key.


could you turn the algorithm around? or something i don't know anything about this stuff

[unknown v2]

Quote: Originally Posted by (_.-Vampie-._)

that was what i was saying get everyone and they're botnet
btw look at this Schneier on Security: Kaspersky Labs Trying to Crack 1024-bit RSA

We estimate it would take around 15 million modern computers, running for about a year, to crack such a key.

Exactly my point. Now, that's just 1024 bit RSA, think of how long it would take for 2048 bit RSA.

Sorry, but it's not happening.

[DJ Shepherd]

for those of you who say, "oh blah its possible, just highly improbable, blahblah" or "get a job," here's a prime example of how ignorant you guys really are
.map modding question

Quote: Originally Posted by (_.-Vampie-._)

i has an ideer
back in 97 this guy crack a 40 bit RSA in 3.5 hours
Berkeley Student Takes 3.5 Hours to Crack RSA 40-bit Key
ok he used 250 computer but the power of each of those are maybe .25 gh
right?
so and

Goldberg said. Each additional bit doubles the potential security level of the cipher.

and we're look at 2048 bit right? so it 51.2 times bigger then the one it took him to do in 3.7 hours in 97 so this is
i can't think of you call then but you know those networks where people can connect or whatever and they use your pc to help do something so it like a super computer well if you got as many active modder or member of this forum you could get any where from 200-1000 people that might or willing to help and given sometime like to be real give it afew months and you could crack idk i bet if i was to sit down with my It-84 could come up with a rough number but let stop saying we can't do it and see what we can do hell if 7S member came togather to do this would you believe how many people would be coming to this site?
i'm going to go google see can dig up more
this can't be done by one person it will need everyone

oh and to respond to this, think of this ratio (a number after e is the number of 0's after it), b and c are random digits cause we are talking in general:
3.5 = Be12
x = Ce516

3.5/Be12 = x/Ce516

3.5 * (Be516/Ce12) = x

x = 3.5 * (Be504/C), by use of canceling out 0's, x is the ammount of time, which is a big a** number

and thats if the numbers a sexy and even, my calculations could be wrong.... but i dont think so...

[Vampire]

it know it not going to happen but i think all this thread have turned into what if?
the money, time and demand for it not there if we have millions of computer and million of dollars still not happen in our life time
bungie has won and out smarten all the modders and they should
and what cause they to go this far was because of all the modding on halo 2
be happy they don't start and try to use a punkbuster or VAC system where any cheat what so ever get you banned for life on everything but custom games if that

[DJ Shepherd]

he is referring tu having something like a dev kit to run your own code (dev kits run signed code btw), or an xbox that can run with out signature vertification, or a custom kernal that will allow us to do that

plus, i see nothing off topic in here at all, all talking about the resigning of xbox things

[gabe_k]

Well it could be possible to create and xex loader to be used with the KK exploit, thus giving you the ability to run unsigned code.

[DJ Shepherd]

Quote: Originally Posted by Godly Chaos

lol. i love posts that turn into something completely off topic

^^ he said about the offtopicness

Quote:

Well it could be possible to create and xex loader to be used with the KK exploit, thus giving you the ability to run unsigned code.

well its pointless because the community wants to work on something that works with the current dash otherwise its stupid, you would have to buy another xbox that hadnt touched live and couldnt do anything but at home

[gabe_k]

Quote: Originally Posted by DJ Shepherd

^^ he said about the offtopicness



well its pointless because the community wants to work on something that works with the current dash otherwise its stupid, you would have to buy another xbox that hadnt touched live and couldnt do anything but at home

No... You can downgrade your 360.

[ddxcb]

well to downgrade a 360 is to F***ing hard trust me i seen the tut how to do it its precise soldering and such + try desoldering an E-Fuse lol.

[gabe_k]

Well no **** it's hard, Microsoft didn't exactly build this stuff to be modded.

[LXV Grizzly]

so if we downsized it we might be able to .map mod it if we had the tools? ive never heard that before

[Eazy B]

Quote: Originally Posted by LXV Grizzly

so if we downsized it we might be able to .map mod it if we had the tools? ive never heard that before

If you have a console that has BK 1888 there is a very specific way to downgrade to the initial dashboard. From here you can upgrade to the exploitable kernel, and in theory build an XEX loader. But no one from here will be doing that considering they dont have the knowledge to program for the Xbox 360, nor the knowledge on how to remove the map checks. Not to mention that this method would require you to have a method of hard drive transfer else you want to use DL-Disks everytime you make a tiny change.

[LXV Grizzly]

hm.. well if someone who knew how would post a thoruough tutorial, would it be possible for some people?

[gabe_k]

Possible, yes, but it'd be easier just to get a dev kit then to downgrade and write an xex loader. All I was saying was that it was POSSIBLE.

[Scare Croe]

Now I dont know anything about modding halo3 nor programming, But cant you open a map in HxD and Find the Signiture? if you can then why not copy it and then edit the map, find the signiture in HxD again (That is changed since the edit) and Paste the original Signiture in?

[Venomous Fire]

Because it isnt just like, a set of numbers, its a hash of the data contained in the map

[Scare Croe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Venomous Fire

Because it isnt just like, a set of numbers, its a hash of the data contained in the map

oh, I see. well is there any way to know the Signiture of a map? or is that just as complicated as re-signing?

[Venomous Fire]

From what I remember, we already know where the signature is, just cant recalculate a new one... but dont quote me on that