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Old 05-25-2008, 05:52 AM   #1
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User map Modding F.A.Q.

Thank you to all the members of the community for some of the posts I used to compile this F.A.Q.

Q. Will I get banned for playing user map mods?
A.
No, as of now Bungie has not expressed their opinion to the full community on users playing modified user maps.

Q. Will I get banned for making user map mods?
A.
Quote: Originally Posted by Bungie.net
"Authors of uploaded modified content received the following prizes:
  • The account is permanently banned from Matchmaking
  • Permanent loss of File Share functionality.
  • The Xbox hardware has been banned from Halo 3 for a month."
If you must mod I would recommended keeping it to yourself or with really tight friends.

Q. Will I get banned if I have modified maps in my file share?
A. Modified maps in your file share are subject to being deleted, followed by p
ermanent loss of File Share functionality.

Q. How do you mod user maps?
A. In simple terms you swap items in the user map with items that are unforgeable.

Q. What is a CON?
A. A CON is a type of Container file used on the Xbox 360 to store local content (Game saves, etc). These files are protected by multiple Hashes.

Q. Is a CON resigner public?
A. Up until Saturday June 29th, 2008 resigners' have been private due to not being limited to Halo 3. Derived released his source to the public to stop the selling of his stolen resigner. A resigner can be located here.

Q. Whats this XSS I've read about?
A. XSS was a web based resigner that would resign user maps or any other type of CON file if it was properly Rehashed first. XSS is supposed to be a game save site for getting gamerscore and wasn't intended to be used as a CON resigning site. They supposedly fixed this but there was a secret bypass for a certain amount of time for trusted members of the site. The bypass got leaked and now is fully fixed and wont resign any modified CON file.
Derived is the admin at the site and created the resigner.

Q. What does a Rehasher do?
A. A Rehasher will calculate the SHA1 of the edited block of data, and then update the hash table with the Hash that was calculated. This will have to be done for each block edited for the file to be properly "Rehashed". Note that a rehasher alone wont allow you to play your modified user maps. A Rehasher can be located here.

Q. Can you swap projectiles/auto-aim if you modify user maps?
A. No.

Q. If I copy the Identifier for a scarab from campaign and swap it with a mongoose will I be able to see the scarab?
A. No, that wont work because user maps only read what identifiers are in the associated map. You can't inject or swap anything.

Q. How can I access data on my 360 hard drive?
A. There are multiple methods to connect your hard drive to your computer. One method requires that you open your hard drive and directly connect a SATA and SATA-Power cord to your hard drive. Another method is using a device such as XSATA or XPORT that connects onto your Xbox 360 directly. For further knowledge I recommend reading this or using google.

http://www.amazon.com/DATEL-Xsata-for-Xbox-360/dp/B000GBADDC
http://www.amazon.com/Xport-Xbox-Drive-Docking-Station/dp/B000PEPML8
Q. Where are the user map locations on your 360 Hard drive?
A. Partition 3\Content\[Your Profile ID Here]\4D5307E6\00000001\

Q. Where are the DLC Maps located on your Hard drive?
A. Partition 3\Content\0000000000000000\4D5307E6\00000002\

To extract DLC you will need you need wxPIRS to get maps out of the LIVE container (Another type of Xbox 360 Container). Get wxPIRS here. http://dwl.xbox-scene.com/xbox360pc/...wxPirs-1.1.rar

Q. Where can I download full Maps from disk and DLC?
A. http://www.xboxsoftmods.org

Q. What do I need to mod user maps?
A. Johnson and
a Hex editor or a program such as Forge. Keep in mind that a Rehasher and a Con resigner are also required to play your maps.

Q. I saw a scarab gun mod/Snow on Valhalla. How do I do this?
A.
You need a Development Xbox as well as a modified Halo 3 XeX that doesn't check for .map checks or a private application that edits a Development Xbox's ram in real time.

Please correct me if I am wrong with anything and post suggestions with stuff to add or fix.

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Old 05-25-2008, 05:58 AM   #2
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Sticky!

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Old 05-25-2008, 06:30 AM   #3
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Stickied.

Ask any forge modding questions in this thread. Creating a topic for something this thread covers will most likely result in the topic being Locked/Deleted.

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Quote: Originally Posted by qweewqaz667 View Post
Q. Why isn't a CON resigner public?
A. A CON resigner isn't limited to Halo 3. People can use it for all sorts of things and they could deteriorate the Xbox Live experience for everyone. Such as stealing all market place items that should be paid for, changing your COD4 Clan tag to anything you want, game save resigning, and dirty pictures in Halo 3 screen shots. Hopefully a CON resigner will never be public.
A CON resigner could not steal marketplace items BTW.

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Q. Will the 360gamesaves.com resigner work as a full CON resigner?
A. No, the 360gamesaves resigner will only swap your profile and console ID and will only work with unedited game saves.
The 360GS resigner does actually resign CON files. When you change the IDs in the header, the actual header hash is then broken. That means that the header must be re-hashed, and then the file resigned.
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hexalot: its not that it could steal things from xbl but someone could get just the files from another xbox, use file transfer (xport/xsata) and place game files like bejeweled and what ever is in the marketplace and make it look legit to xbl as if the files were paid for.
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Quote: Originally Posted by GAMER 4 L1F3 View Post
hexalot: its not that it could steal things from xbl but someone could get just the files from another xbox, use file transfer (xport/xsata) and place game files like bejeweled and what ever is in the marketplace and make it look legit to xbl as if the files were paid for.
You can't do that with a CON resigner.
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Quote: Originally Posted by GAMER 4 L1F3 View Post
hexalot: its not that it could steal things from xbl but someone could get just the files from another xbox, use file transfer (xport/xsata) and place game files like bejeweled and what ever is in the marketplace and make it look legit to xbl as if the files were paid for.
Things from the Market Place are in LIVE/PIRS files. And the keys for those containers are only at Microsoft, where they create downloadable content packages.
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Old 05-26-2008, 12:51 AM   #9
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wait so with these re-hasher's can any1 mod forge maps now? caz i haven't been keeping up with this and im just a bit confused. i know how 2 mod them im just wondering can we play them now.
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wait so with these re-hasher's can any1 mod forge maps now? caz i haven't been keeping up with this and im just a bit confused. i know how 2 mod them im just wondering can we play them now.
You cant play your modded map with a rehasher only. You still need to properly resign the whole CON file.
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Heres a question. Lets say you placed three tripmines in a map, and got it on to your computer. Now, could you hex edit it so three spartans are there instead of the tripmines, or would you need tripmine, shotty, and sniper (random 3 weapons) to have three spartans?
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Heres a question. Lets say you placed three tripmines in a map, and got it on to your computer. Now, could you hex edit it so three spartans are there instead of the tripmines, or would you need tripmine, shotty, and sniper (random 3 weapons) to have three spartans?
You are correct. Having three of the same items on the user map and swapping the id for them in hex will result in all of the items turning into the desired id.
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OH MA GAWD THIS THREAD IS EPIC

Love it and it is a well deserved sticky. answers alot of questions i had =D.

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And there is no flaming so far so keep up the good work everyone.

EDIT: I have another question, where in Johnson is the mauler!

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can someone either show me on xbox live how to or clarify it better on how to mod maps (in custom games only)

what i really want to know is how to make it snow on valhalla

how would u make it snowy on vallhalla?

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Old 05-28-2008, 06:50 PM   #16
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You can't do that in forge. The "Snowhalla" was made using a XDK. (Xbox Development Kit).
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oooo

o well nvm boout that back to my point how exactly do u mod with a regular 360?
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:11 PM   #18
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you need xsata, a con resigner, and a con rehasher
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i have 1

i have the rehasher were do i get the other?

if its the three things listed on the q and a thing i have them is that the con resighner?

and is xsata one of the things listed above?

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Nobody is going to give you a CON resigner. You must make one yourself.

This is XSATA.

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