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Old 11-16-2008, 04:25 PM   #1
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The NXE and CON Resigning.

I have seen way too many threads on this so i though i would make ONE informative post.

MS has banned all public keypairs (KV.bin) so files resigned with them WILL show up as corrupt, they have NOT done anything else to prevent CON resigning.
The fix: Get your own private keyvault and dont give it to anyone.
Or: have 2 xboxes, have one updated with the NXE and another without as an offline box. load your resigned file on the offline 360 and re-save it in game. doing this puts your own keypair on the save, making it not be corrupt in the NXE.

A keypair is a series of numbers (keys) used to calculate a signature. each 360 has a unique set of numbers. So all MS has to do is ban the public ones to make all files resigned with them show up as corrupt.

To get your keypair you need either a launch console that has never been connected to LIVE with a dash version 4548 or lower. OR an Infectus 2 modchip to downgrade to that dash version. either way, it is not easy,So I will not go into more detail on how to do this here.

If i see any more threads on this they will be locked.

Quote: Originally Posted by DJ Shepherd View Post
people seem to think that the whole xbox gets corrupted or that all mods are corrupted
false, only ones that have been signed by the public key pairs, if you change something like a name or resave it or download it or whatever, it REsigns it with YOUR (unbanned) key pair so that in return makes them work
if you resign something with the banned key pair, that and only that save will be corrupted, not your whole xbox unless a save is signed with a banned key pair

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Old 11-16-2008, 04:32 PM   #2
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Re: The NXE and CON Resigning.

Thank God. So many people asking the same damn question...
 
Old 11-16-2008, 04:44 PM   #3
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Sad, yet true. I don't do much CON modding so I don't care too much.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:40 PM   #4
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Re: The NXE and CON Resigning.

This may seem like a stupid question, but I'd like to know before I spend $100 on an infectus. I have a launch console, and I have NXE. I can still downgrade, correct? None of the updates can stop that?
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:49 PM   #5
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How are we exactly going to get a private key vault? Explain that 'cause I am confused!
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:56 PM   #6
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Re: The NXE and CON Resigning.

Quote: Originally Posted by pivotclips13 View Post
How are we exactly going to get a private key vault? Explain that 'cause I am confused!
Do the King Kong exploit to dump your NAND, and extract your KV.bin from it. (Your Keyvault) Refer to Xbox-Scene for more information.
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:02 PM   #7
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if i have a private KV and i want to mod with NXE is it possible for M$ to ban the keyvault if i use it online or if i resign with it and give the mods to someone else and they play it online?
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:15 PM   #8
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Quote: Originally Posted by gabe_k View Post
This may seem like a stupid question, but I'd like to know before I spend $100 on an infectus. I have a launch console, and I have NXE. I can still downgrade, correct? None of the updates can stop that?
not only is the infectus a b*tch to install but you need an old xbox that hasnt hit live
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:21 PM   #9
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I thought that as long as you have BK 1888 you can timing attack it? Considering alot of the people who deal with it say you cant use it on later hardware revisions, it should work on a launch console. I know it still works with the current dash, Ive talked to a guy who writes the current dash when he wants to play new games and writes the exploitable one when he wants to deal with unsigned code.
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Old 11-16-2008, 07:00 PM   #10
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Its swapping them that supposedly is the dodgy part.
Its repetitive and annoying, and this eases the process.

Plus its easy installation, so it seems like a win.

EDIT: Nvm what I said.
Mistakened this tab for the recent 360 ModChip.

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Old 11-16-2008, 07:02 PM   #11
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well im not to sure entirely on this subject so id go with eazy lulz <3
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Old 11-16-2008, 07:35 PM   #12
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Quote: Originally Posted by halodu2de View Post
if i have a private KV and i want to mod with NXE is it possible for M$ to ban the keyvault if i use it online or if i resign with it and give the mods to someone else and they play it online?
If someone from Microsoft gets their hands on a file signed by that KV, they will probably ban it.
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Old 11-16-2008, 07:39 PM   #13
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Re: The NXE and CON Resigning.

@ EazyB: yes, as long as BK is at v.1888 the timing attack is still possible (did a few searches). All hardware revisions after the Xenon are patched against the timing attack if i remember correctly.

@ Halo2dude: they can ban it easily. If they got their hands on the file, then they could just ban it that way, OR if they have enough reason to, they can simply get the key that is used on whatever modded file you have from the 360 itself.
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Old 11-16-2008, 07:54 PM   #14
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do they have the ability to ban it or is it just a good chance they do?
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Old 11-16-2008, 07:55 PM   #15
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do they have the ability to ban it or is it just a good chance they do?
Microsoft can ban any KV they want if they have reason enough to do so.
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Old 11-16-2008, 07:59 PM   #16
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is it automatic? And has it been proved they do?
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Old 11-16-2008, 08:00 PM   #17
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from what that i herd dont blow the E-Fuse or u cant extract the info to make the kv.
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Old 11-16-2008, 08:02 PM   #18
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is it automatic? And has it been proved they do?
No, they have to ban it themselves, and it will come to you in some sort of update.

They've banned several keyvaults already.
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Old 11-16-2008, 08:17 PM   #19
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With the newest version, they can now update your console at will silently. AKA if they have more keyvaults to ban, next time you connect to live, it'll just download that updated list.
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Old 11-16-2008, 08:52 PM   #20
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This really stinks. No seriously, there's something fishy about this...I just can't put a name on it, but something is definitely fishy. And, can someone provide a link to Xbox Scene?

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