.Map Modding Discussion

Supermodder911 · 08-11-2008, 07:27 PM

Detox told me the NAND hardware is identical the dev units just use more space.

Sasquatch 45 · 08-11-2008, 07:29 PM

Can you guys elaborate more on what NAND hardware is?

Supermodder911 · 08-11-2008, 07:31 PM

Basically a hardware component where your Kernel, dashboard, etc is stored.

Eazy B · 08-11-2008, 07:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Supermodder911

Detox told me the NAND hardware is identical the dev units just use more space.

Just asked him and he said he didnt say that.....

Supermodder911 · 08-11-2008, 08:02 PM

Yeah we talked about it. Disregard what I said about the capacity of the NANDs being identical.

bob657 · 08-11-2008, 08:43 PM

why not replace the NAND on a standard console with a larger NAND identical to the ones in Dev-Kits and just flash it with a Dev-Kit NAND dump? or is there hardware problems preventing that? oh and does anyone know which chip on the motherboard the NAND is?

Supermodder911 · 08-11-2008, 10:14 PM

If someone was to Remove the NAND and CPU from a dev unit and re-soldier it to a retail unit. The retail unit will act as a dev unit. It must be done in pairs because the NAND is linked to the CPU.

Eazy B · 08-11-2008, 10:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Supermodder911

If someone was to Remove the NAND and CPU from a dev unit and re-soldier it to a retail unit. The retail unit will act as a dev unit. It must be done in pairs because the NAND is linked to the CPU.

A dev nand and cpu, would have to be taken from a dev, which reinforces my earlier point about the parts sharing the same cost as a dev :p

bob657 · 08-11-2008, 10:59 PM

could you not edit the NAND to accept the standard CPU

Eazy B · 08-11-2008, 11:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bob657

could you not edit the NAND to accept the standard CPU

No. NANDs and CPUs are paired together.

Supermodder911 · 08-11-2008, 11:42 PM

If you knew the CPU key of both the CPU's then yes it would be possible.

bob657 · 08-12-2008, 02:32 PM

wouldn't the cpu key be stored in the current NAND of that cpu?

Supermodder911 · 08-13-2008, 05:49 AM

No it isn't. The CPU key is required to decrypt the NAND. Thats what ties them together. So If I were to get the CPU key of a retail console, and a decrypted dev NAND, I would in theory re-encrypt the NAND using the retail CPU key. But the hardware would be stopping me from doing so. As appearently the NAND chips on retail units have less capacity then required for a dev NAND.

Joey2594 · 08-15-2008, 12:23 AM

Ok, I've read through most of this and I just want to know, do you guys think this will ever be possible at one point? I honestly do.

Eazy B · 08-15-2008, 12:33 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Joey2594

Ok, I've read through most of this and I just want to know, do you guys think this will ever be possible at one point? I honestly do.

I personally dont think so...... I brought the info to the people, ill let them make their own conclusions.

Supermodder911 · 08-16-2008, 08:32 AM

If you don't understand then you'll just have to wait and see. Try to learn all you can about the subject and read the posts over.

Deception42long · 08-17-2008, 05:20 PM

After reading through this thread and thinking this over I've concluded this:
I think I'll just stick with Halo 2 mods. Those are fun anyway. Now once, or if, Halo 3 .map modding is possible, I'll look into that. But right now I'm happy with what we've got.
It's not that I think it's pointless to look into Halo 3 .map modding, I just don't feel the urge to indulge myself into something I don't understand or care about. But good luck to everybody, rooting you on!

unknown v2 · 08-17-2008, 07:55 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Deception42long

After reading through this thread and thinking this over I've concluded this:
I think I'll just stick with Halo 2 mods. Those are fun anyway. Now once, or if, Halo 3 .map modding is possible, I'll look into that. But right now I'm happy with what we've got.
It's not that I think it's pointless to look into Halo 3 .map modding, I just don't feel the urge to indulge myself into something I don't understand or care about. But good luck to everybody, rooting you on!

Well, it's never going to happen.

Deception42long · 08-17-2008, 10:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by unknown v2

Well, it's never going to happen.

I figured that was the case.

Sonja · 08-18-2008, 11:40 PM

It's already possible to .map mod Halo 3. What are you guys talking about?

Lol, most of us including myself can't do that though.

08-11-2008, 07:27 PM	#41
Supermodder911 Junior Member	Re: .Map Modding Discussion Detox told me the NAND hardware is identical the dev units just use more space.

08-11-2008, 07:29 PM	#42
Sasquatch 45 Member	Re: .Map Modding Discussion Can you guys elaborate more on what NAND hardware is?

08-11-2008, 07:31 PM	#43
Supermodder911 Junior Member	Re: .Map Modding Discussion Basically a hardware component where your Kernel, dashboard, etc is stored.

08-11-2008, 07:54 PM	#44
Eazy B Member	Re: .Map Modding Discussion Quote: Originally Posted by Supermodder911 Detox told me the NAND hardware is identical the dev units just use more space. Just asked him and he said he didnt say that.....

08-11-2008, 08:02 PM	#45
Supermodder911 Junior Member	Re: .Map Modding Discussion Yeah we talked about it. Disregard what I said about the capacity of the NANDs being identical.

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08-11-2008, 08:43 PM	#46
bob657 7S Enthusiast	Re: .Map Modding Discussion why not replace the NAND on a standard console with a larger NAND identical to the ones in Dev-Kits and just flash it with a Dev-Kit NAND dump? or is there hardware problems preventing that? oh and does anyone know which chip on the motherboard the NAND is? Last edited by bob657; 08-11-2008 at 08:44 PM.

08-11-2008, 10:14 PM	#47
Supermodder911 Junior Member	Re: .Map Modding Discussion If someone was to Remove the NAND and CPU from a dev unit and re-soldier it to a retail unit. The retail unit will act as a dev unit. It must be done in pairs because the NAND is linked to the CPU.

08-11-2008, 10:47 PM	#48
Eazy B Member	Re: .Map Modding Discussion Quote: Originally Posted by Supermodder911 If someone was to Remove the NAND and CPU from a dev unit and re-soldier it to a retail unit. The retail unit will act as a dev unit. It must be done in pairs because the NAND is linked to the CPU. A dev nand and cpu, would have to be taken from a dev, which reinforces my earlier point about the parts sharing the same cost as a dev :p

08-11-2008, 10:59 PM	#49
bob657 7S Enthusiast	Re: .Map Modding Discussion could you not edit the NAND to accept the standard CPU

08-11-2008, 11:23 PM	#50
Eazy B Member	Re: .Map Modding Discussion Quote: Originally Posted by bob657 could you not edit the NAND to accept the standard CPU No. NANDs and CPUs are paired together.

08-11-2008, 11:42 PM	#51
Supermodder911 Junior Member	Re: .Map Modding Discussion If you knew the CPU key of both the CPU's then yes it would be possible.

08-12-2008, 02:32 PM	#52
bob657 7S Enthusiast	Re: .Map Modding Discussion wouldn't the cpu key be stored in the current NAND of that cpu?

08-13-2008, 05:49 AM	#53
Supermodder911 Junior Member	Re: .Map Modding Discussion No it isn't. The CPU key is required to decrypt the NAND. Thats what ties them together. So If I were to get the CPU key of a retail console, and a decrypted dev NAND, I would in theory re-encrypt the NAND using the retail CPU key. But the hardware would be stopping me from doing so. As appearently the NAND chips on retail units have less capacity then required for a dev NAND.

08-15-2008, 12:23 AM	#54
Joey2594 7S Enthusiast	Re: .Map Modding Discussion Ok, I've read through most of this and I just want to know, do you guys think this will ever be possible at one point? I honestly do.

08-15-2008, 12:33 AM	#55
Eazy B Member	Re: .Map Modding Discussion Quote: Originally Posted by Joey2594 Ok, I've read through most of this and I just want to know, do you guys think this will ever be possible at one point? I honestly do. I personally dont think so...... I brought the info to the people, ill let them make their own conclusions.

08-16-2008, 08:32 AM	#56
Supermodder911 Junior Member	Re: .Map Modding Discussion If you don't understand then you'll just have to wait and see. Try to learn all you can about the subject and read the posts over.

08-17-2008, 05:20 PM	#57
Deception42long 7S Enthusiast	Re: .Map Modding Discussion After reading through this thread and thinking this over I've concluded this: I think I'll just stick with Halo 2 mods. Those are fun anyway. Now once, or if, Halo 3 .map modding is possible, I'll look into that. But right now I'm happy with what we've got. It's not that I think it's pointless to look into Halo 3 .map modding, I just don't feel the urge to indulge myself into something I don't understand or care about. But good luck to everybody, rooting you on!

08-17-2008, 07:55 PM	#58
unknown v2 7S Addict	Re: .Map Modding Discussion Quote: Originally Posted by Deception42long After reading through this thread and thinking this over I've concluded this: I think I'll just stick with Halo 2 mods. Those are fun anyway. Now once, or if, Halo 3 .map modding is possible, I'll look into that. But right now I'm happy with what we've got. It's not that I think it's pointless to look into Halo 3 .map modding, I just don't feel the urge to indulge myself into something I don't understand or care about. But good luck to everybody, rooting you on! Well, it's never going to happen.

08-17-2008, 10:47 PM	#59
Deception42long 7S Enthusiast	Re: .Map Modding Discussion Quote: Originally Posted by unknown v2 Well, it's never going to happen. I figured that was the case.

08-18-2008, 11:40 PM	#60
Sonja 7S Enthusiast	Re: .Map Modding Discussion It's already possible to .map mod Halo 3. What are you guys talking about? Lol, most of us including myself can't do that though.

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