Finding the Host

hoochan · 07-03-2008, 01:11 AM

My friend and I were experimenting yesterday with bots, host booting, bridging host, and all the works.

The thing that I've been trying to find out is, is there any way to 100% know who the host is?

I've been monitoring my Commview in a lot of Halo games.

First, you must be in the party with the people whom you wish to find host from. Then you must clear all latest IP's (right click). The first IP that pops up should be the host UNLESS you are the host.

A trend I noticed: When you are host, the first person on the list should have a direction of OUT. When they are host, then it should be IN.

You should clear a bunch of times in a row. If the same person keeps appearing first, then they are most likely host. If different people come up first, then you are.

These trends have not made me 100% my theories and I will do more research tomorrow.

Any contributions to this question/theory would be greatly appreciated.

DJ Shepherd · 07-03-2008, 02:31 AM

Host has the most packets to/from them in general at time of game... thats like... known how to tell for the longest of times...

**Headshots 1125** · 07-03-2008, 02:34 AM

Host is the 1st ip to show up in cain when a game starts. Or like dj said. most packets.

hoochan · 07-03-2008, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ Shepherd


	Host has the most packets to/from them in general at time of game... thats like... known how to tell for the longest of times...

So if you are host, then everyone on CV should be having the same packet intake/outtake but if someone else is host, then they should have a ton more packets going and coming from them. How many more packets should there be from the host compared to others?

DJ Shepherd · 07-03-2008, 02:41 AM

... you barely know anything about networking... there really isnt a constant rate, and it varies when you speak cause youre send voice information to your team... telling who is host should be noticeable...

**oSHKoMrANDERSON** · 07-03-2008, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hoochan


	So if you are host, then everyone on CV should be having the same packet intake/outtake but if someone else is host, then they should have a ton more packets going and coming from them. How many more packets should there be from the host compared to others?

it depends on when you start monitoring because everyone probably has a different amount of packets coming in and out take for instance you join this persons party and your monitoring packets, then another person joins the party who is also monitoring the packets. its not going to be the same input and output. also if you refesh at different times it might not be the same packets as the other person. but as dj said have everyone in the party talk and it should be appearant who the host is. the most packets going in and out is going to be the person whose host. but that depends if youve refreshed your program in a while. if i helped at all remember to use the thanks button

hoochan · 07-03-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ Shepherd


	... you barely know anything about networking... there really isnt a constant rate, and it varies when you speak cause youre send voice information to your team... telling who is host should be noticeable...

I don't mean an exact number. Like would the host have 2x as many packets or somewhere close to that number?

And yes, I recently got into networking.

DJ Shepherd · 07-03-2008, 11:50 AM

there is no exact number as we said 300 times... itll be noticeable
if somepne else is host, youll really only see their ip with lots of packets
if your host youll see lots of packet traffic with 7 other ips (in a standard 4v4 game)

II iDestroy II · 07-07-2008, 01:04 PM

I'm new here, and to Commview and Cain and Abel. I have both, but would prefer to use Commview. I have my 360 connected wirelessly to my gateway, which my computer is also connected wirelessly to. If anyone here can explain to me how to get IP's from my Halo 3 party to show up into Commview, that would be great.

DJ Shepherd · 07-07-2008, 01:12 PM

uh that was a pointless post, we knew all that...

II iDestroy II · 07-07-2008, 01:13 PM

Okay, well can anyone help me out with Commview?

DJ Shepherd · 07-07-2008, 01:16 PM

why dont you post your problem and see?

urbanexpress · 07-07-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ Shepherd


	uh that was a pointless post, we knew all that...

i know he's a noob but come on do you have to be so condescending?

you know all and he doesn't..... we get it..

if you don't wanna help him... Don't ... you don't have to be like that..
tell him to post his question elsewhere...
or say nothing.

DJ Shepherd · 07-07-2008, 05:36 PM

uh kid... i said that to the person who posted right above me, all he said was he bridged wireless and he saw packets through cain and commview... what was discussed throughout the whole topic, he just repeated what we said millions of times, hence the "pointless post"

bobbypin68 · 07-07-2008, 06:00 PM

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	If anyone here can explain to me how to get IP's from my Halo 3 party to show up into Commview, that would be great.

That was his problem.

DJ Shepherd · 07-07-2008, 06:25 PM

theres tutorials all around here, pointless post when you can use the search button AND you can go to the official site where of course they would have guides, so it was point

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