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Old 04-19-2007, 11:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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.::Why We Mod::.

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As I have been browsing through Se7enSins lately, I have found that general Halo modding community consists of Xbox Live cheaters. Many consider this a serious problem, I would be one of those people. Over the past month I have been trying to figure out an effective way of showing these cheaters that XBL Cheating isn't only wrong, but how “immature” it makes you look, also, it really isn’t “fun.”



The definition of “cheating:”
  • 1. A person who acts dishonestly, deceives, or defrauds
  • 2. To act dishonestly; practice fraud.
  • 3. To deceive by trickery; swindle.
  • 4. To deprive by trickery; defraud.
How cheating is wrong:
  • Point A – As defined, by cheating, you admit yourself as the following: Dishonest, deceiving, swindler. Most don’t care about their character being defined as this, but to those who do, I hope you get the point.
  • Point B – Some cheat to raise their “rank.” The Halo 2 rank you carry is to show others your skill level on the game. In most cases, people desire to raise their rank for “respect” or maybe “attention.” The problem with cheating to raise that rank is: after you find someone that respects your fake rank, you will most likely play in game with him or her. After he or she finds out how you have received your rank, they will disrespect you more than one with a 10 point rank. You were better off before.
  • Point C – “Oh just have some fun, live a little.” I fail to see how cheating is genuinely ”fun?” How can one consider unfairly winning in a game over and over “fun?” An answer of this question could be: “There isn’t anything else to do.” If that is the case, then continue reading.
How great modders are started:
75% of all modders have started modding with cheating. Now, before you make unfair assumptions, continue reading.
  • Option 1 for modders – After finding out the possibilities of Halo 2, most will look for more advanced practical modding. Most will lose their immature infatuation for pathetic cheating. After that steps in, the modder then starts his path as a “great” modder. He mods to make the game Halo 2 better. He mods to enhance the game. I have taken this path, as have about half of the modders today. These modders are known as “Professional.”
  • Option 2 for modders – After finding out that Halo 2 modding is indeed possible, some will abuse the knowledge of modding to a ridiculous extent. Instead of maturing and realizing how one can improve the game, one will continue his pathetic expedition of humiliating himself for dishonest advantages. To those who do this, I highly suggest you turn to option 1. Below are some of the incredible accomplishments of those modders who have taken option 1. These modders are known as “Cheaters.”
The following is a quote from a very respected member of the Halo modding community:
Quote: Originally Posted by Tural
Xbox Live modding is bad. All of it. No part of Live modding should be tolerated on any site. Anyone wishing to do so is not welcome in the Halo modding community. That is not what modding should be. By modding on Live, you are setting the absolute worst example of modding that anyone could ever set. The same people that think they're modding "just" on Custom Games are the same people who hate people that stereotype modding as cheating. Kind of ironic considering that modding on Live is almost entirely correlated, in public opinion, as well as community opinion, to cheating. Live modders are their own worst enemy. Nobody who mods on Live deserves, nor gains any respect from the true community. Congratulations, you succeeded in making people stereotype modders to be like you. I hope you're happy that you were able to single-handedly dismantle any hopes of legitimate modders to be taken seriously.

How to start becoming a “Professional” modder:
Professional modders know and master all these techniques –
SP to MP BSP ConversionsAI in MPSkinningModelingSpawning ObjectsScriptingEditing SoundsEffectsEnvironment EditingIf you release a map containing all of these mod types, you will be creating a professional mod that will lead you to respect. Most of these are fairly difficult modding types, and are not recommended to beginners.
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(Video by Exile Lord. Mods shown are creations from professional Halo 2 modders.)
My Final Thoughts:

I post this to help the modding community of Se7enSins. If anything you have read seems to you needlessly rude, ask yourself, how else am I supposed to show my concern for this issue? Again, I post this in hope of creating a stronger, better, more professional community. I hoped this has been help to anyone. Have a great day!

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(Video by Exile Lord. Mods shown are creations from professional Halo 2 modders.)
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Old 04-20-2007, 08:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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amazing video, and also your statement is true also, but i think that modding in Customs is amazing. But using it to cheat in MM is horrible, but now since you cant and it's gonna be all legit im fing happy.

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Old 04-20-2007, 08:57 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It makes me actually wanna start trying to mod like that. Ever since i download Killtrocity v2 i hated mm mods.
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I also hope we can "convert" these cheaters to pro modders.
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That would be my goal.
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Well cheating mods haven't been posted in a while I see more skin and fun mods being posted recently, they aren't pro or anything but they aren't cheating mods so that's a plus.
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im interested in starting to make good mods and be a "pro" I am going to be trying all of these things and practicing and stuff.
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Good luck. If you master all those types of modding, you could probably make it into Team Remapped.
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yo, i fully support you, and i hope you find more sites to post this. I ditched XBL along time ago so i can do more advanced mods and it is worth it. Not as addicting and is more progressive lol,
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.::Why We Mod::.

As I have been browsing through Se7enSins lately, I have found that general Halo modding community consists of Xbox Live cheaters. Many consider this a serious problem, I would be one of those people. Over the past month I have been trying to figure out an effective way of showing these cheaters that XBL Cheating isn't only wrong, but how “immature” it makes you look, also, it really isn’t “fun.”
If most of the Halo modding community consists of cheater, how do many consider this a problem ?
Actually MOST don't consider this a problem, most modding sites are based on cheating and don't see Your point of view. There is a few that consider it a problem but not many.
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